Shattered Kingdoms

How can I put these nicely...

There have been players that have sexually harassed members of the staff, players that have used SK to attempt to initate improper relations with minors, players that have done "rape RP" with unwilling participants, and many more infractions that aren't exactly public knowledge, but are all worse than blatently abusing an XP bug.

You know what the difference is?

Those players weren't permabanned. As far as Gnimral goes, I don't even have the slightest idea who that is. It has very little to do with the people involved, in fact, it is less impactful because it is well known that the people involved don't exactly give that much of a damn about the ban in the first place.

However, to pretend that there is any kind of consistancy in the punishments applied to the breaking of any of the rules is absolutely wrong and this is just another example of it.

Also, as far as the purge all cheaters comment. You give any imm that really feels like pissing in your cheerios about a week, if that, and he can bust you down for multiple violations of the rules if they so please. 100% of the playerbase multiplays by some understanding of the rule, and the golden rule is so subjective pretty much any of a long list of normal occurances could be infractions. It's the discretion of the immortal at hand that is usually in question in regards to the enforcement of the rules.

One last thing though, Dulrik is probably the most predictable part of the staff as far as punishments go. You can assume anything that he mets out is going to be the absolute harshest imagineable for that infraction. That isn't really a bad thing if you know about it, but it is still something to keep in mind.

100% of the p-base is not cheating. What really disturbs me is that people seem more worried about getting pk'd or insulted somehow than bypassing low level training and low level rp. Insta gm is worse than insta pk'd. By far.

You are right, 100% isn't cheating. Only true newbs that don't know anyone else, doesn't cheat by the letter of the multiplay rule.

It's not unreasonable at all for them to be deleted and permabanned. They should have immediately reported the bug instead of being [REDACTED]. Think about how unfair and [REDACTED] it would have been if nobody had caught them, they'd be running around with gm chars that they didn't put any time into while the rest of us had to level them. I'm just confused as to why anyone would want to be cheat in sk of all games, it's pathetic.

Just because other infractions were not punished enough, does not mean that this one should be punished less or not at all. It is worth a siteban.



This is not someone going from Sith'a'niel to Exile. This is someone who heard about a bug and rolled a character to exploit it. It's not in the same ballpark, league or sport. And furthermore, I do know people who do not multiplay with knowledge gained from previous characters. Basically if you can't trust Dulrik or any other immortal to deal out just punishment, you might as well just quit the game now.

Even they usually cheat, asking the same people to help them from char to char, etc, etc.

If you want to throw in a 99.9% qualifiers for true newbies the first time they roll their character. Fine. However, I've never seen anyone get lost in Exile, be unable to find the bank, be unable to find weapons to train with, be unable to find your class trainers, have no idea where to level at any given point, have no understanding of what armor to wear for a certain class, have no idea what abilities actually will help them level, and I'll stop there for now.

You multiplay. I multiplay. Everyone multiplays to some extent, that's just the fact of the matter. There is also the whole golden rule fun that anything that could be negatively impacting another players enjoyment can be construed as a golden rule violation.

I deal with these things all the time. I rp'd these problems with my current char (not knowing places I did OOCly). This is all besides the point though. None of this is at all on par with the subject at hand.

Cheat, you mean like getting OOC info about cabals and using it in character? That sorta thing is pathetic? Well, whaddya know.

Let me put it this way, if any immortal really felt like it, they could watch you for a week and find some instance of multiplay to delete you for. Did you roleplay not knowing the layout of levelling zones too? How nitpicky do you really want to get?

No one is really questioning the deletion of the characters involved, it's the so-called permaban that is at question here. It matters very little in this instance, however next time it may be you or someone else that actually wants to play this game

I fondly remember crushing Ghijk and his Druid crew back when he had command of the Druids.

This ban is made out of failure. Who am I going to PK when people are getting banned left and right?

And yeah, there have been worse things done in the past in violation of the rules like people trying to molest Sklz711.

Horrifying, really.