Shattered Kingdoms

wow somebody has his panties in a wad. Run along now, the adults are talking furtive.

Petrification blows and you know it. How about we just give sorcerers a Summon Elemental skill and make them as worthless as a warlock? Oh wait, at least the warlock can heal.

I still say we should just remove spell casting classes entirely and give haste/gstr to shamans.

Better yet, make Art counter MP as well so the damage spells actually do something.

Ealuriel would run around owning face with cone of cold/acid blast wands. Damage spells have always worked pretty well since MP was changed to apply before the save.

Magical devices only get so much use out of art. It might actually get people to where they use the spells they trained instead of lady of the nighting limited items and pretending that requires as much skill as enchanted gear.

The spells you have as your class would get the full art bonus so you could actually hurt people instead of relying on a charm or insta-kills to do it for you.

Ur mom.

@furtive_death:
I started this thread. It is not a reaction to being ganked by charm person. My character hasn't been ganked in many months unless you count IMM slayings, and he also happens to be a GM sorc with 14 art, 24 int, 20 cha, and mastered charm person.

@parnys:
A life like statue of Aramith is standing here.
The corpse of a giant legionnaire is lying here.
A life like statue of Ceciro is standing here.
A life like statue of Krewt is standing here.
The corpse of Captain Stern Waish is lying here.
The severed finger of Captain Stern Waish is here.
The corpse of the concierge is lying here.
( 2) The corpse of the Innkeeper is lying here.
The corpse of Savra is lying here.
The severed foot of the Innkeeper is here.
A life like statue of Ailee is standing here.

Petrification is working fine. Against someone with decent enchants, a sorcerer has to rely on different tactics. In this case, there are many, many tactics available to a sorcerer, besides c 'charm' xxx. If you seriously think sorcs would be worthless in pk if you nerfed their ability to charm pcs, you're simply wrong.

Give Art the ability to negate MP or remove the ability to enchant weapons with damage and see how non-spellcasters like MP now.

I don't see why people are for making scrolls and other items the end-all be-all of PK when you could make those damage spells everyone uses to level actually useful.

While I also think it would be interesting to discuss the result of making damage spells actually do damage in the end-game, that is not the topic of discussion here. Fortunately, Achernar's solution seems to at least address the primary issue of making this overpowered skill too easily accessible.

Meanwhile, let's discuss damage spells in a different topic, and see if we can finish out an appropriate solution to help balance charm person here.

Where I come from, most compulsions grant the victim a new saving throw each time an order is given that might be dangerous or terminal.

In another mud I played in many years ago, before coming to SK, if you tried to any "all" commands (remove all, junk all, wear all) each item you intracted with had a few seconds worth of lag to it. If you were to junk a room full equipment it might take 2-3 minutes real life during which time you were command lagged. That might be a solution for people who don't like {order all remove all;o all drop all;o all junk all} as it would take about 10 minutes.