Charm and its punishments.

WickedWitch · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:29 am

I'm not a -complete- ditz. Jeez.

Mira · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:31 am

As of now, the casting time of charm person has been increased significantly. We may or may not be adding further tweaks to it in future, but this is it for the moment. The rule about RP still applies, use the spell accordingly.

Turon · **Joined:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:33 pm **Posts:** 861

Achernar wrote:

Turon wrote:

I have an idea.

I think the IMMs should make a habit of getting together and deciding what is punishable and what isn't -before- they take a player aside and threaten him even though he didn't break any rules.

They could even post such rules in a public forum where anyone had access to them. That'd be a good idea.

Dulrik wrote:

In addition, we will be scrutinizing any charm logs sent to us much more carefully. Lack of role-playing by either the charmer or charmee may make the player eligible for a XP penalty due to poor RP.

This is from a post made by the Implementor in the Announcement forum. He has the final say. We were following his wishes.

Good point: If possible, it would be nice if those could go in the helpfiles or some more open place if they can be changed before (if any) changes to CP. I honestly had forgotten about that post, and it's not very obvious when it's placed within a thread titled "Bug, dropping your charmie over a city."

EDIT: Looks like I got beat to the punch.

WickedWitch · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:33 am

Oh snaps, lemme see!

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Quote:

A busy servant dodges a thick-maned lion's attack.
A busy servant dodges a thick-maned lion's attack.
A busy servant dodges a thick-maned lion's attack.
A thick-maned lion scratches at a busy servant's chest, causing a deep gash.
A busy servant punches at a thick-maned lion's chest, barely wounding him.
A busy servant punches at a thick-maned lion's stomach, barely wounding him.

[HP:100%] [ME: 51%] [PE:100%]
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c charm serv
You start to concentrate.

[HP:100%] [ME: 51%] [PE:100%]
>
A thick-maned lion's bash knocks the wind out of a busy servant.
A thick-maned lion scratches at a busy servant's chest, causing a deep gash.
A thick-maned lion scratches at a busy servant's stomach, opening a painful, bleeding wound!
A busy servant dodges a thick-maned lion's attack.
A busy servant dodges a thick-maned lion's attack.
A busy servant punches at a thick-maned lion's right finger, bruising his slightly.
A busy servant punches at a thick-maned lion's right hand, ripping a small wound.

[HP:100%] [ME: 51%] [PE:100%]
>
A thick-maned lion scratches at a busy servant's left ankle, gashing a small wound.
A thick-maned lion scratches at a busy servant's left leg, causing a sore wound.
A thick-maned lion misses a busy servant.
A thick-maned lion scratches at a busy servant's chest, causing a gaping wound!
A busy servant throws a throwing spear at you!
A busy servant misses you.
A busy servant's punch at a thick-maned lion's left arm is deflected by fur hide.
A busy servant punches at a thick-maned lion's right wrist, causing a big gash.

[HP:100%] [ME: 51%] [PE:100%]
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You utter the words, 'qpabraw dudasabru'.
A busy servant looks at you with adoring eyes.
A busy servant now follows you.

[HP:100%] [ME: 49%] [PE:100%]

I must have forgotten the definition of significant. Could someone tell me, please?

Nightwing · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:37 am

Mira wrote:

As of now, the casting time of charm person has been increased significantly. We may or may not be adding further tweaks to it in future, but this is it for the moment. The rule about RP still applies, use the spell accordingly.

This is the part that makes me nervous: unless I'm missing something else, there is no "rule" about RP related to charm, only a quick one-liner from Dulrik in an old announcement.

So can we please be given the "rule" about charm RP, including its potential consequences, especially if they stretch beyond the aforementioned XP penalty?

Turon · **Joined:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:33 pm **Posts:** 861

Mira wrote:

As of now, the casting time of charm person has been increased significantly. We may or may not be adding further tweaks to it in future, but this is it for the moment. The rule about RP still applies, use the spell accordingly.

Dulrik wrote:

In addition, we will be scrutinizing any charm logs sent to us much more carefully. Lack of role-playing by either the charmer or charmee may make the player eligible for a XP penalty due to poor RP.

Yes, I'm curious: Is Charm Person supposed to require -more- RP than any other PvP spell? Because there's no indication of that even within Dulrik's announcement post, and it doesn't make much sense to say that either.

Parnys · **Joined:** Mon May 02, 2005 12:50 pm **Posts:** 400

Turon wrote:

Yes, I'm curious: Is Charm Person supposed to require -more- RP than any other PvP spell? Because there's no indication of that even within Dulrik's announcement post, and it doesn't make much sense to say that either.

To arms, Turon! The imms attack our very way of life!

Why, exactly, is Charm Person being singled out amongst all of the other one-shot-wonder spells and skills to require "more roleplaying"? You've been ignoring it up until now just arguing with jimbo, but changes like this are going to make a lot of people nervous and probably cause half the Hammer to quit if you start tacking on mandatory roleplaying to junk loots.

WickedWitch · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:44 am

Yes, it is. Why is this so hard to understand?

Turon · **Joined:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:33 pm **Posts:** 861

WickedWitch wrote:

Yes, it is. Why is this so hard to understand?

Turon wrote:

Because there's no indication of that even within Dulrik's announcement post, and it doesn't make much sense to say that either.

I mean, while I respect your desire to use the charm person spell "responsibly," your definition of responsible is a personal one, not one stated by Dulrik or the Immortals. It's just as viable to assume that Dulrik meant that Charm person wasn't meant to be used without RP just like every other PvP action shouldn't be taken without RP.

Achernar · **Posted:** Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:01 pm

Please define RP.

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