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 Post subject: griffons!
PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:20 pm 
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They should all get MR


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Bad idea...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:09 pm 
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the only way it would be OP is with sorcs and maybe shamans


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:08 pm 
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It's not clear to me that many griffons would even want MR. If it's enough to be protective, it's enough to block buffs.

Besides, unless a race-identifing weakness is a critical problem, it's better not to reduce it. Griffons are weak to magic primarily because of their small number of item slots, which would otherwise be relatively meaningless. If a buff is needed here, it should be narrowly focused on problem spells.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:38 am 
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they already get toughness.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:38 am 
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I don't want them to get MR. What will they get after that? Alertness? They already have toughness. How much barbarian stuff will they get? Right now the only people with MR are barbarians, if you want mr on a griffon make a griffon barbarian.

If griffons get buffed I would like the next one to be a unique, griffon specific buff. That's just my opinion.





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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:08 am 
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Conan's right.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:28 am 
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Also, griffons need a buff . . . not a nerf.

Honestly, just introduce a shop that sells cheap, low quality cotton, leather, and steel armor that griffons can wear all over. Give them as many armor slots as the other classes.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:26 am 
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really griffons make the best disposable characters as it stands. You really dont need much gear, they are immune to alot, can hurt like hell, tank like hell. i see nothing wrong with them! I have had a griffon beat down my old dwarf, of course it was probably buffed way up.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:15 pm 
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Here's a griffon skill that might make them more useful, Tentatively named : Grapple, though i don't like that name but am at a loss right now for something better.

[Skills help] Grapple

Syntax: Grapple <victim>

Grapple is the ability of a griffon to make use of it's poweful wings in combat. Essentially, at the start of battle, the griffon swoops in and grapples it's opponent, if the attack is successful the griffon then makes a steep climb and drops it's foe to the ground below. Any non flying enemies of size large or less, free fall to the ground until they meet it with the sickening crunch of bones


Basically it would work like this. It's an oppening attack, can't be used once battle has started. The griffon swoops out of the sky quickly, grabs you with it's claws and beak and tail and swoops back up and drops you. You then take falling damange and possibly some secondary effect.

the skill is very limited. It won't work on flying people. It might not work on size giant people ( I'm undecided basically since a giant can't ride a griffon why would a griffon be able to lift it into the air?) unless the griffon is enlarged to giant, and the damage wouldn't be all to severe. Maybe the same as dismounting from a flying pet while you aren't flying.

That's a bit of a griffon buff, and it's specific to the griffon race. Obviously this wouldn't be a sprite tactic. To me this doesn't seem over powered either. It's quite a bit weaker then Gore.


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