Shattered Kingdoms

I don't think having lighten load is as broken as having griffon bountyhunters. Good grief those things are ridiculously strong.

Yeah, forgot to mention golden griffons too.

Anyway, OA is the forerunner of the disagreeing party here, and his very first argument:

I agree with this. The Talon should have to get it normally just like everyone else. Priests in the MC casting interdiction doesn't help at all anyway, because they're level crappy.

No, my very first and only argument is variety is good for the game. I'll stand by that argument.

I'll step in as heavy disagreement, too.

You're a sprite that wears only cloth armor. Do you really need lighten load? And, can you tell me that anything but that fact spurned this argument?

Resurrection is the only 'broken' spell tribunals get access to, in uneven balance. The only tribunal that should not get it is Midnight, because of all the other skills. That, or no one gets it. However, I feel that it's a balancing act especially with the playerbase and it should remain accessible to tribunals for the foreseeable future (unless other balance issues come in regarding dual membership, at which case it should be promptly removed from everyone).

Lighten load? You're fine. Everyone's fine with the differences. Your argument is exactly the same as saying every cabal should get the [Midnight Council cabal]'s spell, or the [Hammer of Light cabal]'s spell, because they're nice. There's balance through difference. Deal with it.

Man, it's so unfair that the Fist don't get law immunity in Zhenshi. That should totally be changed.

I'm trying to compare tribunals to each other, and you just brought in cabal skills. They aren't all that related when dealing with NPC buffs.

As for whether losing lighten load impacted my character, it definitely did. I would bet that my character has the lowest carrying capacity of any active PC at the moment, and consumables weigh the same regardless of what size you are or what armor type you wear.

You think that everyone's fine with the difference? Ask any person who's played a large or giant-sized character in a tribunal since the change. Lighten load was -huge- for them. I'd gladly take lighten load for resurrection, if I had either. Being able to always walk around under the 1/2 weight restriction and also being able to pick up an entire PC corpse easily is an incredible advantage. It's all but impossible for a giant merc/barb to be under the weight restriction now unless they have lighten load. The Talon are not underpowered, and shouldn't have such an advantage over other tribunals.

Unfortunately, they are. The argument is the EXACT same: this other player organization gets access to this spell, but I don't. It's unbalanced and I want it.

I'm sure MC wants access to [Hammer of Light cabal]'s spell and would trade, say [Midnight Council cabal skill] to get it. Tough cookies, I'm afraid. You can make this case to your KD based on the spells you have access to, and I'm sure there's an argument to be made...maybe. But in the end, it seems a pretty fickle argument to make. Not every tribunal should have the exact selection of buffs.

Make friends with a heavy armor priest. Get them to either hold the spell on you, or brew it for you.

Maybe more priests need to take the Gwynnestri stance of, "[REDACTED] you, I'm brewing for you, or else." I just can't argue with that. She's so tough.

Such a hawt attitude for a priest to have, for serious.

I <3 Gwynnestri.