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 Post subject: giant strength doesn't affect me
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:51 pm 
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SK Character: Theodoric
Sorceress utters the words, 'ouaih ghcandusiohp'.
Your muscles surge with heightened power!

o [Affects] patrisaurus o
o Affect: 'water breathing' o
o Affect: 'detect invis' o
o Affect: 'detect hidden' o

ou say 'I don't know how, but it didn't stick.'

[HP:100%] [ME: 58%] [PE:102%]
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Sorceress utters the words, 'ouaih ghcandusiohp'.
--not a failure, just doesnt work

Sorceress says 'You cant get any stronger'


later...

You feel weaker.

didn't log, but checked affects and had no fatigue. an hour later no "recovery" message.


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 Post subject: Re: giant strength doesn't affect me
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:00 am 
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you have a mod to str from enchantments.


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 Post subject: Re: giant strength doesn't affect me
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:55 am 
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Giant Strength and enchanted str mods don't stack to go over your racial max. Still stacks with innate str mods.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:39 am 
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 Post subject: Re: giant strength doesn't affect me
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:52 am 
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First off, whaat?

Second off, that doesn't explain why the affect didn't even show up and why I didn't get fatigue.


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 Post subject: Re: giant strength doesn't affect me
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:54 am 
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I'm going to give peso the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant:

"Do you have a str mod from enchantments? Maybe that is what is causing this bug, which is obviously a bug."


Storm wrote:
Giant Strength and enchanted str mods don't stack to go over your racial max. Still stacks with innate str mods.

Let me try to understand this. If you are a human shaman with 20 strength, and you get weak giant strength, your new maximum strength will be 25, and your actual new strength will increase to 22 (this will depend on the strength of the giant strength spell). Now, if you have enchanted a strength mod for +3str, this will not stack with the +2 actual strength you got from giant strength? Even if this is true, giant strength should show up in the affects list.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:27 am 
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Are you a giant?


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 Post subject: Re: giant strength doesn't affect me
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:28 am 
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My guess would be that patrisaurus must have been wearing more than +4 strength in enchanted STR mods, so the giant strength ended up getting bypassed somehow.

Definitely buggy though.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:02 am 
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Some examples after a bit of testing, lets say you are a half-elf merc with 20 natural max str.

*You have trained to 12, you have a ring with 3 enchanted str mod and a vial of gs for another 2. They will stack for a total of 17.

*You have trained to 16, you have a ring with with 3 innate mods and the vial for another 2, they will stack for a total of 21.

*You have trained to 16 you have a ring with 3 enchanted mods and the vial for another 2, they will only stack to 20.

*And in the case where gs doesn't show at all in effects, you have trained to 16, you have a ring with 4 enchanted mods, and high lvl gs spell for another 4. They will not stack at all and you will still have 20.


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 Post subject: Re: giant strength doesn't affect me
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:19 am 
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So ultimately, enchanting for STR isn't worth it if you want to go above your racial max with GS. To do that you need innate mods.


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