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 Post subject: Re: Code Update 08/11/2013 Q&A
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:02 pm 
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Montarion wrote:
That was how Nyde used to roll, hand crossbow and one-handed dagger. I definitely have logs of it in action if people want to see.

Send me logs. I will also run some tests on the old code sometime next week. I wont give any more opinions on this until I've seen both of these.


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 Post subject: Re: Code Update 08/11/2013 Q&A
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:28 pm 
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And I'd like to take the time to inform you that Baldric is wrong and you have not worked hard enough to satiate our lust for your life-force. Your sacrifices have been insufficient! The playerhive demands MORE. GIVE US YOUR BLOOD.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Sadly I don't have any logs to prove it. But I learned I could do it on Johanin back when stances were implemented. I also saw Nyde, Zellidon, and Reinald do it as well as did it on Bolden.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:04 pm 
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If it were put to vote (which it shoudln't) and my vote was the tie breaker (which it wouldn't) I would say swash/bard needed the upgrade and i'd rather lose it on rogue than see it taken away completely.


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 Post subject: Re: Code Update 08/11/2013 Q&A
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:56 pm 
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Just remembered I got a new computer, and my logs are all on my old one. May take a few days to dig them up.


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 Post subject: Re: Code Update 08/11/2013 Q&A
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:06 am 
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I distinctly remember nyde wielding both dagger and crossbow. I thought they had always been able to do that.


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 Post subject: Re: Code Update 08/11/2013 Q&A
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:29 am 
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They have for a very long time. If not always.


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 Post subject: Re: Code Update 08/11/2013 Q&A
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:05 pm 
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I went back to the old code.

Code:
You are using:
<right hand>         (Glowing) an ebony hand crossbow (superb)

[HP:100%] [ME: 62%] [PE:100%]
> wear dagger
You can't wield two weapons at once.

vs.
Code:
> eq
You are using:
<right hand>         a throwing dagger (brand new)

[HP:100%] [ME: 62%] [PE:100%]
> wear ebony
You hold an ebony hand crossbow in your hand.


This is a bug. It shouldn't have mattered which weapon was trying to be wielded in your off-hand. It should have told you that you can't wield two weapons at once, since you don't have dual wield.

Some things that should have tipped you off that this was a bug: It says 'hold' not 'wield' for the crossbow. It also doesn't give you a skill message such as "An ebony hand crossbow feels like a part of you!'.

This is still a bug today. I'll have the full fix so that rogues can't wield two weapons as soon as I have some time.


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 Post subject: Re: Code Update 08/11/2013 Q&A
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:57 am 
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I can confirm doing this playing my rogue Zellidon because it was a great way to deal with mirrored images -- shooting three shots a round with a hand crossbow while circle stabbing/hamstringing. It was pretty useless for adding damage. For those who might ask, no I'm not playing this game I just felt like reading the forums.


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