Shattered Kingdoms

Okay to set it straight i am playing a griffon now. But i remember that like 4 or 5 months ago maybe if that i had my griffon and there were a decent amount of diamond basically from the makar things and now i cant find them and no one else can either. So my question is were they taken out or are they just hoarded?. I wouldnt even bother with tanso or cold iron unless i was a MR barb to negate iron guard.

Also if your all stuck on the fact they have enough weapons cause of the store bought junk. How about giving them a store like the Grahme weapon shop in teron. where you can just ask for a weapon and it comes out tanso or cold iron but for griffons. That seems about fair?


PS make those unique griffon weapons in teron energy, addy or even diamond man! they look cool enough

I'm pretty sure all the perks of being a griffon come at the cost of equipment availability.

If you wanted to use commonly available weapons, play an anatomically common race.

Before i would say yea. Now that you can enchant mods and [REDACTED] does not really matter. Im talking weapons not armor. Griffon buffs for reflex will fort are cool. Im just saying weapon material. Think about it like this. WEAPON wise is there any reason a griffon would go into any other cabal other then certain cabal? If a barbarian could go fist there would be barely hammer griffons. Lets be serious. If you want more variety instead of the cookie cutter way people are making chars you gotta add stuff to spice up the pot.

From what i am getting is your saying griffons are too good to get better material weapons. Okay, now they can go into the same cabal they all go into, and weapon material dont matter and they get one of the top weapons types in the game? That logic is all off.

Other point is the only way a char should use tanso or cold iron weapons is if they have a way to dispel. (negate) Your basically promoting people to play griffons to go MR. I mean there is 1 really good set of eq for 1 griffon maybe 2.

PS! not trying to get everyone all mad, griffons are pretty damn sick. its just right now they are throw away characters. Think about it. your guy with tons of hours in enchanting and all that with specific nice weapons. And your complaining about a char thats only weapon accessible is a store six leagues from where he has to recall.

BACK to the main point! were the diamond eq and other weapons that were that material or better taken out? They cant be hoarded this long...

Maybe there are already enough griffons in the game to be using them all.

That makes no sense. I'm not quite sure how many weapons you think there are for griffons. There is an energy flail, fairly easy to obtain. The more difficult to obtain weapons are a few diamond tridents that tend to blow up on the 2nd or 3rd added rune, an adamantite no-dachi and finally two halberds that don't consecrate very well. And what? 1 shield? Half of the items above are likely taken by inactive or low hr characters. This pretty much forces you to use the steel store bought weapons which are easily countered with ironguard.

Perks : extra att points, fly, immune to gas, poison, plague, infravision toughness

Drawbacks: Glaring lack of available weapons forcing you to use storebought steel. 5 gears slots total opposed to 14 forcing you to dedicate ALL of those slots to will/fort, even then you still aren't at a competitive level to deal with PC spellcasting classes. Losing ring slots and talon grips also means you lose access to scripted rings and weapons.

You're pretty much gonna be ownd by any spellcaster or anyone with access to ironguard..and probably other melee classes wearing decent armor vs your toughness. Toughness is like tanso pmuch.

I've never really understood this whole complete separation of talon gripped vs regular weapons. I'm not even sure what a talon grip would look like, but I'm pretty sure I'd be able to take a regular weapon and at least fashion a talon grip for temporary use.

You cant play a front row griffon if there aren't any weapons/shields available. This either forces you to play ranged classes or join certain cabals to compensate. I don't feel that a person playing a griffon should have to do that.

Or you could play a front-row griffon with store bought weapons.

Sounds to me like some people just can't deal with not being able to have PVP snowflakes.

your not really getting what i am trying to get at. Yea i can play a front row griffon with store bought weapons but then why would i do that when i can just join XXXX and get those skills to make the griffon even less eq dependent. More weapons decent weapons would mean there is more flavor to making the race more broad instead of the same thing over and over again.

Wow Grep. You are absolutely worthless in regards to constructive things to say. Go away you troll.

Chris

Yeah I don't really take anything serious especially when it comes from gerp. Its not like he's really an authority on griffons, or pk..or rp for that matter since he cant follow those guidelines.

@skhellion: Afaik those makar weapons were taken out of the game. The reasoning behind this? Not really sure. Why take away a diamond weapon and shield when there is already a lack of griffon items to begin with? I could be off base on this assumption, but like you, I haven't seen those items in quite some time now.

I've explored every griffon area in the game and aside from the items I mentioned above, there are only steel weapons available on those NPCs.