Shattered Kingdoms

if ur character is in a tribunal and ur looking for a cabal that will provide the most benefit and/or power, it depends on ur class. as a caster, it should be midnight, crucible, druid, harlequin, hammer, fist in that order. as a non-caster, it should be hammer, midnight, fist, harlequin, crucible, druid in that order.

no matter how u slice it, harlequin is middle of the pack. i consider myself to be a number crunching, min/max type of player that is more interested in hack and slash, exploration and pk than socializing and rp. there is a reason i never joined a tribunal with my harlequin characters - i weighed the pros and cons and decided the drawbacks were not worth gaining access to a tribunal guard.

ur character will be less effective and less powerful with a tribunal than without one as a harlequin

So you don't feel that total law immunity combined with the rest of the harlie skillset is more powerful than other cabal abilities in tribunal warfare? Or do you just feel that tribunal warfare isn't important enough to weigh into the balance of a cabal's skillset?

Edit: Different wording.

u have law immunity as a harlequin with or without a tribunal. the question then becomes whether u think it is more beneficial to join a tribunal and gain access to a guard at the cost of having enemy tribunal guards attack u and report ur location over tribunal chat.

it's not even a close call in my book - ur more deadly and lethal without a tribunal than with one as a harlequin. joining a tribunal actually makes ur character less effective and weaker. if u joined a tribunal before u picked a cabal, harlequin is an average pick at best - see my previous post. if u joined harlequin first - u would be foolish to join a tribunal for anything other than rp purposes.

no changes r needed cuz ur already nerfing ur character by joining a tribunal as a harlequin

This is the part where I disagree. The fact that no other cabal provides law immunity except Harlequin means that they're overwhelmingly stronger for tribunal warfare, and given that everyone can join a tribunal now... tribunal warfare is a pretty big deal.

u can disagree, but ur wrong. show me the logs of harlequins in a tribunal that have dominated in pk b/c they had a tribunal guard. i can link u to well over 100 logs of my non-tribunal harlequins tyrannosaurus rekt-ing people. that wouldn't have been possible if i had joined tribunals cuz when u get reported on tribunal chat - people run away.

u never get reported on tribunal chat as a non-tribunal harlequin

You're still completely ignoring my point and focusing on a different one: Law immunity is something that a tribunal member should not be allowed to have if they're also able to bring tribunal guards to engage in combat. It's imbalanced that one of the most fundamental downsides of engaging in tribunal warfare, (getting outlawed and spawning bounty NPCs repeatedly) is something that can be ignored by tribunal members in a certain cabal. It puts all tribunal members who do not join the Harlequins at a notable disadvantage.

I'm not going to bother arguing with you that all Harlequins should join tribunals because that's OP. I -am- arguing with you that if one tribunal goes to war with another tribunal, the trib with Harlequins is at a glaringly huge advantage because they can have complete law immunity yet still use their own tribunal guards when attacking, and that's imbalanced.

u can think whatever u want, but joining a tribunal as a harlequin makes ur character weaker and less effective than not being in a tribunal - period, end of story. there r no changes necessary cuz joining a tribunal already nerfs ur character. if u want to keep beating the dead horse - go for it. u don't seem interested in expert opinions from people that have actually played multiple harlequin characters.

You're still arguing a totally different point than I am.

This is what I am arguing.

ur argument fails on every level

as a harlequin, u have law immunity and can avoid bounty guards whether ur join a tribunal or not. by joining a tribual as a harlequin, ur actually nerfing the one ability that allows ur character to completely bypass tribunal guards. ur less effective and less powerful with a tribunal than without one as a harlequin - especially for tribunal warfare.

*facepalm*