Shattered Kingdoms

I understand bash is not a reliable way of landing a kill anymore. Also, swashies have kip up, which if I understand correctly, lets them just stop being prone whenever they want.

So outside of one-shot spells like charm and petrification, and cabal spells that might hold someone in place, how does anyone die in PvP now? What does PvP look like now?

Gang bangs. Or magma.

Might get a lucky taunt? Maybe cursed weapon? Idk.
I don't like how there isn't a reliable way to lock someone either.

There is, just not for many people.

My only theorycrafting for landing kills involves one of the following, in order of difficulty to achieve with class builds and coordination and prep of opponent.


A) Gangbang and hope to get lucky with a bash or your opponent lagging themselves before getting the chance to quaff recall.
B) Petrification or charm.
C) Taunt, combined with the ability for an ethereal warrior to do the killing if you're talking about a caster.
D) Adhesive medical strip at some stones.

In general it's much more difficult to kill prepared opponents now who will auto-recall at the first sign of threat, especially casters.

In general, PvP since I started playing actively back a couple of years ago consists almost exclusively of gangbangs and people hiding. Every now and then someone shows up and is willing to fight when it isn't overwhelming, but it's pretty rare. I'm also rather inactive now again.

I heard that rogues were able to steal recalls mid-combat ages ago.
I think we should bring this back since landing a kill is so difficult now days.
It would also make rogues a more valuable class.

How many people would -actually- roll a rogue just so they could steal a recall vial mid-fight? As far as I know, you can't steal during a fight regardless. Trust, me I used to love doing it. Would sit there pocketing hard-earned money from people as they trained. Oh those were the days. Actually my favorite was stealing the Blade of Infinite Darkness from an MC guy way back in the day, right as he was about to hand it over to someone for enchanting. He was like, "WTF where did it go?" I then recalled. Bwahahahaha

Lulz. The troll factor would be higher, that's for sure.
I'm unsure if people would roll rogues simply because of this change, but it would be an added benifit. Almost on par with swash and taunt. I know people that have rolled swash to get the taunt for PK. So it isn't that far fetched.

With the nerf to enhanced damage, can rogues even 1-shot people anymore?

I'm having a hard time figuring out how anyone dies anymore.

I'm working on a new zone that is all underwater, no magic, no recall, lava rooms full of nasty little imps and large tigers. Going to need some play testers, so roll a newb up and join the fun.