Envenom working as intended?

TacoRobot · **Joined:** Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:31 am **Posts:** 240

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[HP:100%] [ME: 15%] [PE:100%]
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A willowy female elf's shot misses you.
A sacred oak battle arrow streaks into you from the east!
A willowy female elf pierces at your chest, barely wounding you.
A willowy female elf causes bloody wounds to open in your arms and legs!
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from your eyes and ears!
That really did HURT!
A willowy female elf causes bloody wounds to open in your arms and legs!
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from your eyes and ears!
That really did HURT!
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from your eyes and ears!
That really did HURT!
You sure are BLEEDING!
A sacred oak battle arrow streaks into you from the east!
A willowy female elf pierces at your head, causing a pulsating wound.
You sure are BLEEDING!
A willowy female elf causes bloody wounds to open in your arms and legs!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You lose your concentration on emperors favor.
You no longer feel favored.
You lose your concentration on midnight.
The unnatural darkness dissipates.
You lose your concentration on charm person.
Your charm spell wears off.
Your head explodes in pain! Everything goes dark...
You have been KILLED!!

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[HP: 4%] [ME: 15%] [PE:100%]
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An enormous winged lizard misses Illasni.
Illasni dodges an enormous winged lizard's attack.
A sacred oak battle arrow streaks into Vaskeir from the east!
A willowy female elf pierces at Vaskeir's chest, smashing a small but painful, w
ound.
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from Vaskeir's eyes and ears!
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from Vaskeir's eyes and ears!
A willowy female elf makes some evil looking gestures at Vaskeir but nothing hap
pens.
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from Vaskeir's eyes and ears!
A willowy female elf makes some evil looking gestures at Vaskeir but nothing hap
pens.
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from Vaskeir's eyes and ears!
A willowy female elf causes blood to trickle from Vaskeir's eyes and ears!
Illasni strikes suddenly, chopping at an enormous winged lizard's chest! Some G
UTS fall!
An enormous winged lizard winces as a series of fractures appears on its scale h
ide!
Illasni raises his weapon and chops it deep into an enormous winged lizard's che
st!
Illasni chops an enormous winged lizard's head. An enormous winged lizard falls
with a blank look on its face!
An enormous winged lizard is DEAD!!

Envenom casting 5-7 damage spells from one arrow seems like that has to be a bug, and a pretty glaring one.

Of note in the first snippet is that the first arrow missed, so that is the second arrow casting 5 damage spells.

I'm not sure anybody can see that and think it's "mechanics working as intended". You have to know you are abusing a bug when you see that and deliberately decide to use it against other players without reporting it.

TacoRobot · **Joined:** Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:31 am **Posts:** 240

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A golden-maned lion raises his weapon and thrusts it deep into Afeak's chest!
A golden-maned lion misses Afeak.
A golden-maned lion scratches at Afeak's left hand, causing some minor scratches
.
A sturdy mule punctures Afeak's windpipe, making a shower of BLOOD!
A willowy female elf pounds Afeak's windpipe, making a shower of BLOOD!
Afeak crumples as his head explodes into bloody chunks!
Afeak is DEAD!!
You hear Afeak's death cry.
A willowy female elf gets 6 gold coins from a corpse of Afeak.
A willowy female elf gets a single silver coin from a corpse of Afeak.
A willowy female elf gets 2 copper coins from a corpse of Afeak.
Lazeran parries a legionnaire captain's attack.

I didn't even notice this the first time I read the log, but that "pound" is a melee hit from the bow, and Afeak's death (head explodes) is the death message for dying from one of the cause spells, so hitting with the bow in melee still caused envenom to go off.

So apparently not only can you poison arrows but also the bow (despite it not being a piercing or slashing weapon). I assume the 5-7 spells firing off are caused by envenoming both.

This mechanic really needs a second look, and anybody using it like this is probably abusing a bug.

Kirsenvar · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 1:52 pm

Wow what the hell, first time seeing the log and this is just ridiculous.

alvarro · **Joined:** Mon Mar 04, 2002 10:42 am **Posts:** 1053

Yea that has to be obvious bug abuse (if they knew it would happen) :/ Jeez. Reminds me of when people abused a backstab bug or something like that, that would loop the backstab, so it would hit several times, or something like that.

Tragonis · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 5:42 pm

I envenomed 11 arrows with multiple cause critical potions and cause light herbs. Never did the bow though. No idea why the bow cause it. I honestly am still trying to figure out envenom and that was only the second time I used it.

stratford · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2018 2:13 pm

Seems like it is working as intended.

Trosis · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2018 5:07 pm

How do we not have an Imm Official Statement on this yet?
Dulrik? Ruling?

TacoRobot · **Joined:** Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:31 am **Posts:** 240

It's only been a day and a half, calm down. :drunk:

Trosis · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2018 6:56 pm

TacoRobot wrote:

It's only been a day and a half, calm down. :drunk:

Fine fine.
I am just under the impression that this is a very high priority issue, as it is currently breaking the game.
I was just wanting to see some acknowledgement that there is an issue here.
I don’t want to see Trag get busted for bug abuse. But it’s like to get some sort of statement on it.

saxifragaceae · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2018 7:28 pm

Trosis wrote:

TacoRobot wrote:

It's only been a day and a half, calm down. :drunk:

Fine fine.
I am just under the impression that this is a very high priority issue, as it is currently breaking the game.
I was just wanting to see some acknowledgement that there is an issue here.
I don’t want to see Trag get busted for bug abuse. But it’s like to get some sort of statement on it.

yeah, hope it gets fixed so we can kill each other again instead of ronya just killing me and vaskeir over and over, hahaha.

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