Thuban wrote:
It is probably more sensible because of the first round factor. If saves become too hard to make, then people just start getting autoganked again when someone swarms in on them 3 on 1 out of nowhere, and we're back to the situation of nobody ever wanting to be front row and nobody ever wanting to stay logged in if a gank seems imminent. This is exacerbated by 'order all bash' making an increased difficulty of reflex saves vs. going prone essentially a nerf to melee classes instead of an improvement for them. If some impairment has to happen first before knocking the target prone becomes a high probability event, then it gives the victim a chance to escape and return with better odds. I think there is a sentiment that people want to be able to land kills in pitched battles but don't want to make it so that newbies and casuals are forever getting steamrolled in autoganks that last all of 1-3 rounds, where the victim was prone the entire time. New impairment options for melee types have the potential to strike the right balance, especially if they're the types of things that are harder for people using pets, charms, controls, elementals, etc. to take advantage of than they are for PC melee classes.
It seems like like an improvement over the current functionality of bash/trip, though. Is dirt kicking reflex based, too?
RE: newbies and casuals getting rolled, honestly, people need to keep in mind that getting ganked for loot can be perfectly valid (the 'oh i'm a rper-only but i'm going to hold onto this limited and useful loot and cry if someone kills me for it' thing is completely asinine) and being a part of factions, cabals, and certain alignments, classes, and races are opt-ins for PvP. Faction leaders should remember their responsibility to make this clear to people they induct.
As a player primarily interested in RP and exploration, I'd still rather see any changes to mechanics to make PvP more competitive and interesting for PKers instead of protecting those newbies/casuals who make the IC choice to paint a bullseye on their forehead.