Shattered Kingdoms

Thanks, Ardith. You said exactly what I was thinking when I read his post. If he really wants to hold this bias, I won't hold it against him. However, if he really wants to experience the faith and what it has become, he should interact with us from the standpoint of wanting to learn about it.



I too miss the hellions, but I still hold the faith to the standards of the code laid out in the books if they choose a warrior path.

Also, I would find it really amusing if you tried to call Sadr this ICly, just to see what she would do to you.

First of all.

"If he really wants to hold this bias, I won't hold it against him."

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This... is a game. I did not insult your mother, or your sister or your REAL goddess. For the sake of the Sacred Common Sense, chill out. Ilae, you sound like an IC preacher. Honestly, you have to relax.

Now then.

Yenko was a Goddess of SKs. She had an image. Her followers, her dogma, her entire religion had image A.

Sadr has image B. It does NOT matter that only ONE sphere has changed. If you take into account that each god only has two or three spheres, tops, changing one of them is enough for the god's IMAGE to change fundamentally.

So. I don't like Sadr. I hate her guts. I hate all disease gods in every fantasy setting, to be frank. But I loved Yenko. I loved her because she was kinda pseudo Japanese, because she was cool, because she was a Hellion, because she had Kakuri, because she had sensual half-naked deep-elven priestesses with wings sprouting off their backs (without them being completely amoral prostitutes as Thuban's but cold hearted sadistic bitches were) --> Kaylia, Iori and because Ice, our Frost Script (which did absolutely nothing) is also very cool and I love it. Yes, it's as simple as that!

So I loved Image A, I hate image B. I am not saying you are doing anything wrong, nor can you try to somewhat change my opinion on what sort of IC god concept I like or despise in a -game-.

Ardith: Good, I'm glad you seem to -understand- that all I am talking about is my personal freaking taste here. Sadr may supposedly have Winter as a minor sphere, but I don't see it anywhere as anything prominent. (See my references to scripts). The Hellion matter was just the icing on the cake. Goddess of Disease with Hellions would be even worse for me though, I'm now glad she lost them.

PS: I cannot call Sadr a [REDACTED] ICly, because I do not -exist- in SKs. My characters are not stupid enough to do so, but I can do so freely IRL, and if that bothers you, I am sorry but see my "first of all" paragraph.

PS2: I also inform you that I despise crazy and completely stupid character concepts, as well as vampire-drinking adept-like concepts (most of them at least) and I've never RPed such things in Pen and Paper or the MUD. Will you now accuse me because I do not -like- these things?

PS3: [sarcasm] Remind me to hold it against you because you don't like Paladins as fanatically as I do. Oh, in case you don't love splatter movies too, remind me to hold it against you because I do. Or maybe cheesecake. Yeah.[/sarcasm]

99.99% of the time, I find that people that hold such biases as players bring them into the game with them, that is the only reason why I said what I said. No need for me to relax on the issue, too many people put way too much of their own personal beliefs into their characters and it shows.

Being that my favorite religion in the entire game was Yenko's because of how incomprehensibly ambiguous and totally awesome it was, I'm kind of disappointed with Sadr and how different she is.

Ilae: True. But the opposite also goes. I would NEVER want to serve a god of power/war/conflict. I hate these things personally, and never cared about attaining mastery in one of them. Same goes with Yenko. Or Ain. Or any of the religions I've been a member/HF of.

I'm not a paladin either IRL. Far from it. But they are my favorite (as are Hellions).

Join the religion of Sadr.

Become HF

Remake the religion in your ideal image.

He won't do that, said so himself.

I do think that Sadr is (or should be) missing the more pristine image of Yenko. I will commend the Sadr faith for being far more active in the past six months than they have ever been in my tenure before. Between Ilae's character and Flaine and a few others, they've done a great job of adding RP to the mud.

-- Final post. --

Paladin/Ilae; I'm writing PLAIN ENGLISH here.

I don't have a problem with the way the faith is being run. I haven't had a single IC interaction with a Sadrian. My sincere congratulations for having it so active and successful and all that, but please try to understand;

I have a problem with the GODDESS. I cannot CHANGE the IC
Goddess. Even if -I- played Sadr herself, I -cannot- change the concept or her image nor would I know how to change it so I would like it even one bit.. I couldn't change it if I made a character to worship her, much less.

I don't want to take over or change anything. I just don't like the spheres and Sadr! Spare me, please... pretend you understand! "Oxi allo karvouno!" (trans: "No more coal!" - quote of despair from a classic Greek 60's movie) Arghhh!

I have to agree with Rada. The goddess Yenko had a cold pristine hardness about her where as the goddess Sadr does not. This has nothing to do with the following but the goddesses themselves and their spheres of influence. Winter Cold and Pain vs Disease Pain etc... Winter has the harshness but a cleanliness where as disease seems festering.