Shattered Kingdoms

Doesn't setting the favor flag prevent blemish/atone from the HFs, though? That would be a lot to ask IC just for the ability to make symbols.

I'm not trying to poke holes at everything... just trying to reason through how this should legitimately work. For example, when the non-priest HF of our religion invests someone, he get a symbol from a NPC somewhere in order to give it to them. Now, I understand I should load him up with a few more symbols myself... and possibly a couple of other PCs as well.

I think symbols should be requestable. Just speaking from my experience when Dayamin and I (two paladins) lead the Truth faith and had no favored priests. I'm wasn't going to KILL a banisher for theirs.

Why would you have to kill for a symbol as a lighty? Request, hello?

You are only thinking about the lightie religions. Other aura religions might have to stun/kill the NPC in order to get their hands on a symbol.

Also, there is a rule about giving out requested items. A bit pesky of one in this situation, but it is still a rule, break it for one instance, and you'll see people breaking it for a lot more things.

Read the rest of this thread, please? Requesting is only an option for level 30+, and...

Now, my personal opinion is either that it should be available to all (i.e, level 5 or specially flagged/scripted) or to none (level 60 and you do need to have your HF make them for you). But in the middle seems inconsistent, except for the fact that symbols themselves have (neutered, and usually terribly outdated) scripts on them. Which is why I created this thread in the first place.

I still believe in the idea of givin the HF and a 2nd follower the ability to create symbols regardless of their class! It'd make it alot easier for the faiths!

First of all, forgive me if I missed anything. I just skimmed through the tail end of this.

Dulrik: what you forget is this. Some of the HF of faiths aren't priests and therefor aren't given the create symbol spell.

sleeper

There is a favored flag (not a high favored flag) that can be given to more trusted followers, or those you feel have somehow earned a higher position in the Church, but not that of high follower. This setting will allow a priest to create a symbol, without giving them the ability to invest, blemish, and atone. A church in the situation of not having a high priest should consider this an option, do the RP, and contact your patron IMM to help you out of this.

Riley