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Do hellions need something?
Yes they need something (give ideas and discuss below) 41%  41%  [ 16 ]
No, they are fine as is. 38%  38%  [ 15 ]
Don't care. 21%  21%  [ 8 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:37 am 
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Perhaps. But if the majority seems to think they need something, maybe you should reconsider your stance? Granted the majority is not always right.

As for fourth attack, eparry, slow, disarm... They would all be nice but they dont need that.

I do however think they need parry, and lower concentration cost for dominate.

Oh and finger of death, we need that. (Warning: Joke)


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Ardith wrote:
Maybe a little unrelated, but perhaps hellions should receive frenzy and paladins should lose it (as well as sanctuary).


This is the best Idea I've heard yet.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:12 pm 
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It's a bit tough to hold spells as it is without frenzy. I doubt it would ever get used.


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Orac wrote:
josephusmaximus3 wrote:
I dont think it actually has a greater chance of hitting, just a greater chance of nimbuis and mroe damage, and i remember fighting one paladin with my hellion and i only had a sword and shield cause i had returned from being dead and I was getting half-saves a pretty decent ammount of the time. So I dont think its too bad unless they trian art.


All I will say is that I never had any problems landing my bolts with my last paladin on delfs. That was before they modified enchating and before art existed. So you had no art power backing you up and enchant was not as it is now.


The enchant changes made it easier to resist the spells, so you might want to not list it if your intent is to bolster your past information as still correct.


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Dictionary.com wrote:
Ken·tuck·y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-tk) Abbr. KY or Ky. or Ken.

A state of the east-central United States. It was admitted as the 15th state in 1792. Daniel Boone's Transylvania Company made the first permanent settlement in the area in 1775. By the Treaty of Paris (1783) the territory became part of the United States. Frankfort is the capital and Louisville the largest city. Population: 3,698,969.


You left out the y in Kentucky. I just thought I'd point that out since you razz so many people about spelling and grammer. Especially that one greek who deleted over it.



As for my quote, my intent wasn't to bolster an argument. The last paladin I had was before the addition of art and before the enchantment changes and he never had any problems landing bolts. That's all I know about it. I'm assuming with art and the changes to enchant that it would still be balanced.

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lol, grammer.


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Getting close to getting off topic while talking about paladins.

Anyways hellions need parry :D and lower concentration cost for domination.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:14 am 
Domination seems fine to me the way it is.

I agree on parry.


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kentuck: Its called a colloquialism.


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I was going to post a longer post, but Homeless Jesus was kind enough to make the post for me.

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