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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:38 pm 
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Someone in another thread mentioned that mirror image needs to be wimped. I commented on that but since this is something that is pretty screwed up, I think it should be reported in the bug discussion, as I consider the way this works to be a bug.

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Someone mentioned mirror image needing wimping... the only thing that needs to be wimped about mirror image is in how it responds to room/area affect spells/chords. If a bard sings a room/area-affect chord, it should hit the sorc and not hurt any of his mirror images. If a warlock throws a fireball into a room or casts an earthquake, it should hit the sorc and not hurt any of his mirror images. A guardian's gas blast should hit the sorc and not hurt any of his mirror images. If a warlock throws a chain lightning into a room, each bolt at the sorc should either dispel one of the images or hit the sorc. Or even let these spells hit the sorcerer AND blow away ALL of his mirror images. If the fireball is burning EVERYBODY in a room, then why on earth would it only burn & dispel one mirror image without touching any of the other images or the sorc himself? Makes no sense at all.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:53 am 
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This was mentioned a long time ago. And I am still of the same mind. If you are doing an area effect spell that hits EVERYONE in the room then all the mirrors and the orginal caster should be hit as well. Thus dispelling the mirror images and doing damage.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:54 am 
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I totally second Dalamar's opinion on it.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:01 am 
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I totally second Dalamar's second opinion on it.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:10 am 
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Well that would make logical sense wouldn't it!? The question is, how easy would that be to code!?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:36 am 
If these changes are implemented mirror image will be useless. Having mirror images does not necessarily mean that you are standing hand to hand with each image. You could be standing quite a ways away from each one.

And gas blast does injure the person with mirror image now. That was a change made some time ago. This is really devastating to elf/deep-elf/sprite casters but what are you gonna do?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:12 am 
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No changes to mirror image should be made, but if you think so, please list the current class you play and ill think of an effective way that class should be wimped and try to have it implemented.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:11 am 
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Wow what great evidence for why it shouldn't be. Ardith, did you read what everyone here just said? It doesn't matter if they aren't standing next to you, when a fireball engulfs the room you and your images are in.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:12 am 
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Ardith wrote:
If these changes are implemented mirror image will be useless.

Which proposed version are you referring to? If it's the one where an AOE wipes out all images, I might agree. If it's the one where AOE just damages you and leaves all your images, I'm not convinced.


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kuroki wrote:
No changes to mirror image should be made, but if you think so, please list the current class you play and ill think of an effective way that class should be wimped and try to have it implemented.


Now there's a compelling argument. Did you buy it at '[REDACTED] R Us? Why not actually try presenting some logical reason about why it should remain as it is now in light of the suggestion raised against it?


I play a Hammer Priest (which means that I have mirror image available to me through scrolls that I use). If you can think of some intelligent reason why some ability of the Hammer or some ability of priests should be wimped and can present it with some intelligent supporting reason, then by all means! Do it.


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