Rally cry and fury

Tragonis · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:51 am

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xxxxxxx thunders forth a tremendous rallying cry!
You rally to the attack!

[HP: 100%] [ME:  77%] [PE:  65%] [Coins: 1 platinum, 2 gold, 1 silver, 4 copper] 
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 o [Affects] zzzzzzzzzz.                                                     o
 o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
 o Affect: 'berserk' - penalty to magical protection                         o
 o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to weapon speed                          o
 o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to fortitude                             o
 o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to willpower                             o
 o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to weapon damage                         o
 o Affect: 'berserk' - morale bonus to probability to hit                    o
 oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

[HP: 100%] [ME:  77%] [PE:  65%] [Coins: 1 platinum, 2 gold, 1 silver, 4 copper] 

Why don't they stack?

Mot · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:34 am

Both are 'morale' type bonuses, and so only the greater one takes effect.

Not bug, feature. And yes, Dulrik did say this.

Dulrik · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:30 pm

Correct. Rallying cry is still in affect but because it is less potent than berserk, you won't see it until berserk wears off first.

Tragonis · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:54 pm

If I am all rawr and ARRGH beserking and my leader tells me FOR THE LIGHT, should I be even more 'RAWR'? Just because one is less potent then the other, should it void its affect? They should stack imho.

Dulrik · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:56 pm

They never have and they never will. It's called game balance. What you have now is that they overlap, which is more than you used to get.

Enishi · **Joined:** Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:05 pm **Posts:** 769

I think the way rallying cry is explained in the helpfile is that it's not just a really inspiring yell or something. The merc in question uses his knowledge of combat and tactics to direct people better for a little while. It kinda makes sense that a furied barb, lacking some higher reasoning skills in his enraged frenzy, isn't gonna process orders that well.

Guest · **Posted:** Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:30 am

Dulrik is simply applying the new D&D ways to SK.

If you have a +5 ring of a protection and a +2 ring of protection you don't get a +7 by wearing them both you simply get the higher bonus. That being the +5. But that only applies for like things, like two items that grant natural armor or deflection or whatever.

In this case the game is simply determining which of your probability to hit is higher and going with that one.

Guest · **Posted:** Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:36 am

Enishi wrote:

I think the way rallying cry is explained in the helpfile is that it's not just a really inspiring yell or something. The merc in question uses his knowledge of combat and tactics to direct people better for a little while. It kinda makes sense that a furied barb, lacking some higher reasoning skills in his enraged frenzy, isn't gonna process orders that well.

I'm going to have to disagree with that. And I think the perfect example would be Theoden rallying the Rohirrim before charging down the fields of Pelennor. That is what a rallying cry is. It even says it in the description of the affects, it's a morale bonus, which in battle is more of a raw effect then being calculating and thinking things through.

Basically when the mercenary gives out his cry it is to be a sudden spark of enthusiasm, a sudden jolt of electricity meant to encourage those that are fighting with you. So you're really just screaming out some really inspiring things, not a "chop that guy's arm off, to prevent him from using his weapon".

josephusmaximus3 · **Joined:** Tue May 20, 2003 1:19 pm **Posts:** 1896

I think its fine the way it is. A barb who is all berserking and full of fury ICly probably wont be paying attention to much but splattering his opponent, regardless of what you are yelling.

Orac · **Posted:** Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:48 am

I was going to say what Josephesmaximus said. If your mad with rage you and to incoherent to talk right you probably don't give a [REDACTED] what your "leader" is trying to get you to do. He's lucky you don't kill him too.

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