Shattered Kingdoms

Well, it happens that if I remember right. Gasbah dumped many trains into art. Art does affect the saving throws of s of sleep and silence.

Still, 6 art bard has effective songs vs good enchanted EQ. A 14 art summoner can't summon though the PC with the same EQ.

Songs ARE overpowered.

PS: I have a bard and I say that.

Chords do more than decent damage, and have added effects, stunning, deafening and breaking equipment.

If the chords do no damage to you that means that you have enough MP (or you play a magic resistant race) to not be affected by any damaging spell in general, not that they are weak.

Bards are fine.

Since, their songs are the only thing that makes them from not being absolutely worthless in pk then that is their good thing. Don't forget. If they get their spell of first (magma spray comes to mind) the bard is dead unless they made their save, which is unlikely.

I forgot one thing. It is easy for a sorc/necro in a group v group to kill the bard. Sorc/necro leaves room. Summons bard kills bard. Easy as that. Although, the sorc/necro will need something to bash or trip but shouldn't be too hard.

Bards get persuade to be with sick buffs 24/7.

They also get scrolls to have even more buffs.

And above all, they get scrolls to win PKs.

Use cheat0r scrolls, win SK.

Hmmm . . .I wish I new wish cheater scrolls they used. In either case. Any class minus spellcasters owns bards. Bards own spellcasters. Just think of it though. If they use the new f minor you won't silenced!

They would if you didn't make alts, sit in the middle of nowhere and hoard stuff.

Or fail to persuade all the time even though their persuade is mastered and get the COT!

Anyway, Gasbah has also had a specific cabal skill that combined with songs of sleep aided him evade most of bashing attempts, so it is not a common bard's talent.

Powering the chords is not essential IMO, since the way I see them, they are not to be sagely used in any case of PK, but used as tactic tools in specific PK cases. What I would really like to see in bards is more HPs or shield block as a skill. Either of them would be the only thing that would make them a completed adventuring class.

P.S: I hope this makes sense, I just woke up