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 Post subject: God Favored Classes
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:25 pm 
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It has been brought to my attention several times that certain gods are purported to favor certain classes. For example, Yed and warlocks due to their elemental ties, or Sadr and Necromancers due to the spreading of disease, etc.

My question is, does this supposed favor manifest itself ICly, and should it if it does? Should I take things like this into account OOCly as well? Another example - if I am a priest of Yed, should I show special favor to warlocks when granting rezzes or other boons, regardless of my feelings about them ICly, because their class is favored by my god?

Also, do these 'favored' classes have perks within their favored religion, such as the ability to become HF more easily or things of that nature?

PS - No, I don't have another priest, this is just a question I've been meaning to ask.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:24 pm 
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Baraka wrote:
My question is, does this supposed favor manifest itself ICly, and should it if it does?


Yes, and imho yes. Several churches often have one HF as a priest, and the other as a <favored class>: paladin/hellion for knight religions, necro for Sadr, warlock for Yed, etc.


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Should I take things like this into account OOCly as well?


You need to explain what taking this OOC means.

Baraka wrote:
Another example - if I am a priest of Yed, should I show special favor to warlocks when granting rezzes or other boons, regardless of my feelings about them ICly, because their class is favored by my god?

Either way would be an acceptable way to play. Would you enjoy the roleplay associated with helping even disliked warlocks?

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Also, do these 'favored' classes have perks within their favored religion, such as the ability to become HF more easily or things of that nature?

Yes, some religions grant easier access to HF or F2 for appropriate classes. This is not hard-coded, however, and I doubt would lead to promoting a bad character over a good character. Some religious items can only be used by certain classes, and this plays into the perks. There can also be a myriad of RPed perks.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:54 pm 
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Priests generally have the liberty to define the details of their religion as they like. This is subject to:

1) Any immortal edicts on your religion forum.
2) Your high priest's/follower's tolerance for unconventional ideas.
3) The tradition already established in-game. Not that you can't break it, but you ought to have a solid IC reason for doing something different.

If you want to play a priest of Yed who actively discriminates against warlocks, you can. But you ought to be wary of points 2 and 3 above. Why would your priest consider the matter so differently? Are you going to enjoy playing a character likely to be at odds with the hierarchy over this matter?

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if I am a priest of Yed, should I show special favor to warlocks when granting rezzes or other boons, regardless of my feelings about them ICly, because their class is favored by my god?


As Benzo said, this is completely up to your character conception. Personally, I like a mix of the two elements. Someone of a favored class or religion gets preferential treatment to a point, but abusers of this find there are limits. This has the OOC advantage of encouraging some roleplay within your religion. RezThnxBye isn't exactly a story for the ages, no matter how convenient it might be for all concerned.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:02 pm 
Religion is basicly what those who play members of that religion make it.

Few years back it may have been a bit different but now the occasion where an Imm will interfere with how you RP your religious character is
very thin.

If the religion of yed choses to favor warlocks, they favor warlocks.
If they decide that warlocks are a pest to yed and only drain his
power meanlessly, then they can put a kill-on-sight on warlocks.

Some things are fairly obvious though, thankfuly, as people that play
religious characters usualy follow the stereotypes of that religion, so
you can expect for instance, a priest of truth to be more welcoming
and helpful towards a paladin then a priest of wisdom would be.

My answer to your question is, ask the same question in-character, to the
faith of your chosing. Faiths change a lot as their playerbase changes.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:35 am 
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Religions are what the playes make it. That is why there are unique. As you say being a priest of Yed, should you help warlocks more.... Yes and No. A warlock of the faith is obviously going to get the rez due to the fact of being in the same church. But a non-Yed warlock is a different story. There are certain ones that will not get aid from their church for different reasons. If you are not sure of certain behaviors just ask your HF, or even any other member of the faith. They will be able to tell you what is not apporpriate and what is. Never be afraid to ask ICly or OOCly.

~Raycosus, High Priest of Yed

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:01 pm 
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Benzo Balrog wrote:
Baraka wrote:
Should I take things like this into account OOCly as well?


You need to explain what taking this OOC means.


By 'taking the information OOCly' I mean how should I, as a player, expect to be treated by members of a certain religion if I am a favored class, and was wondering whether or not there are some unspoken guidelines.

To get away from Yed, let's go a different direction. Let's say I play a necromancer. Now obviously, my odds of getting ressurected by a light priest are zero, and by a grey priest being slim but not impossible, I am most likely going to talk to dark priests/priestesses first. Should I approach a priest of Sadr before a priest Sargas because of my class?

I'm considering this OOC because obviously it will be hard for the priest(s) in question to determine who was asked first, if they even care...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:59 am 
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This depends on the character, and his/her own style of RP. (Thus I'd call it an IC action).


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... was wondering whether or not there are some unspoken guidelines.


No. It's all dealt with ICly.

That said, if you don't know a priest personally when asking for life, it often helps to volunteer a reason why the god might care about you. For example, if you're a priest of Alshain, which request are you most likely to accept on the spot?
"Please pray for my life. My name is XXX." or
"Please pray for my life. I'm XXX, a paladin of Ain.

Generally, the second gets a much better reaction. But every once in a while, you might run into an Alshain priest who hates Ain.

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Should I approach a priest of Sadr before a priest Sargas because of my class?


Your class doesn't require you to do anything not in the help files. Your necromancer may feel more comfortable asking for help from Sadr, especially if he knows of Sadr's sympathy for the class. Or he may not. As Benzo said, it all depends on the character.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:24 pm 
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... was wondering whether or not there are some unspoken guidelines.


No. It's all dealt with ICly.

That said, if you don't know a priest personally when asking for life, it often helps to volunteer a reason why the god might care about you. For example, if you're a priest of Alshain, which request are you most likely to accept on the spot?
"Please pray for my life. My name is XXX." or
"Please pray for my life. I'm XXX, a paladin of Ain.

Generally, the second gets a much better reaction. But every once in a while, you might run into an Alshain priest who hates Ain.


That's almost fodder for another discussion entirely, but . . .


You, as a character outside of a faith, probably do not know the extent of a God's favor to your class/race. Just because Thuban likes elves that lie doesn't mean that Aerlyn's gonna help them in any way, shape, or form.

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