Shattered Kingdoms

This argument isn't really about Slayne. He's just an example. If you can gain respect and loyalty without being the ultimate-PK master, that's fine with me. But since Achernar reminded me, I did a bit more searching on the records and found that Slayne's PK ratio was almost 5-to-1. That is, he killed almost 5 players for every time he was killed by a player. That seems like quite a respectable record to me.

While at first glance a 5-1 ratio seems competent, it's actually absolutely awful. Respectable in nearly any other mud (and sk, although since we don't keep track of ratios here it is somewhat meaningless) is along the lines of getting 50 or more kills for every death.

Cannibal is a fine player and he rps spectacularly. If everyone who played SK was of his caliber this game would be a hell of a lot better.

This isn't every other mud, I think 5-1 is good.

Then again I'm usually on the losing side of 1-100.

My best PK record was only 23:8 and that's a lot less than Slayne. I would say that anyone at the 5:1 or better is certainly holding their own. There's only a handful of players that do better than that consistently.

Maybe there should be a player method of tracking or displaying a pk record that's not entirely objectionable. I'd be interested if people would like to see their W:L records in the Afterlife threads of individuals that ask for it. Then we might know if 5:1 is a good record or just average.

Wow, this idea popped up in my mind just as I read the post you wrote before this one. Then I thought better than to be the one to suggest it, because I don't want to be blamed for "the inciter of pk" or something. Players may take this 'excuse' to either kill lots or be really careful so they can keep a good ratio. As we know, some players are already notoriously 'careful'. So I have mixed feelings. (I would like to know mine though.)

How would you keep some jackass from killing lowbies just to up their record? Maybe on a per kill basic track his/her level and the victims level

I only brought up the record to disprove a point. My entire thesis revolves around the idea that good roleplaying should be more influential than how many people you can PK. Do you really think I'm going to start publishing PK records? That would lead to the opposite outcome.

Wow Rial, if I could turn the scent of jealously that exudes from each of your posts into a candle, I'd burn it every morning and laugh as hard as I am right now.

Spam died? Please.

I had my share of deaths but one must consider that I didn't hide in forts or run around only with massive gank squads when I knew it was safe. Slayne would fight anyone, anywhere. He would go up against almost any odds, alone. And most of the time, he gave a lot more than he got. Matter of fact, most of his pk was done solo. Most of his deaths weren't even to players. They were to bounty NPCs.

Slayne had a fantastic pk record when you consider the style of pk I indulge in. You also have to look at the sheer amount of players I killed. Sure, you can go out and kill 50 people and not die over a 2 year time, only going out when you've got the absolutely best gear and the odds are in your favor, like certain players do. You're 50:0 ratio will be really impressive out of context. I assure you I had way more fun killing hundreds of people in crap gear, alone, with sd, and sometimes dying in the process.

I had the pk rial. More importantly, I had the rp. I understand that you don't know what rp is and that it's an alien concept to you and that's why you're struggling with this whole notion that Dulrik and others are throwing out to you. RP is and will always be more important than pk. I personally like to blend them in equal measures. But if you don't have the rp, the pk is absolutely meaningless and vice versa. I got logs and logs and logs and logs of rp and pk.

Never respected me? So? Fear was a mighty fine substitute where respect was lacking. Did people respect Hitler? No, they feared him. (since we're abusing Godwin's law.)

More realistically, stepping away from tooting my own horn, my fellow players allowed Slayne to get away with it for whatever reasons that they did. It wasn't just my rp, it was everyone's involved. There were those few that opposed Slayne and they were crushed. I never meant for Slayne to succeed. Don't you realize that? I was just as shocked as everyone else when I publically proclaimed my emperorship and the MC just bowed down to me without question but it happened. Slayne was emperor because no one with the cojones was able to step up and stop him.

Anyway, enough about me. I'd like to see Delear as a NPC. He had spectacular rp and if anyone ever deserved to be made a lich it would be him...and maledictus.

I could see frollith being made a NPC as well.

After playing Ace so long, and RPing with Slayne for so long as being an ally and enemy. I can confirm that Slayne was everything that Cannibal claimed. I am not saying that I played any char that had as huge of an impact as Slayne, Frolly, or Delear, but I have rped with all of them a lot and I can see them getting immortalized. Frolly, might be up for debate though. I would quote everything Cannibal said, but I won't because it is too long.

So, above this post is the truth.

(Note: I don't know or care who Cannibal is so don't even try to say that I am one of his YIM buddies or whatnot)