Shattered Kingdoms

Um...

In all the muds I've seen (and attempted to play), humans have generally been the basic race with average max stats and no weaknesses or racial bonus.

And why are these poll answers so [REDACTED] bias.

They are definitely better scouts and bards, hands down. In terms of bards, same int/cha but higher dex. In terms of scouts, better cha.

Half-elves do not make better hellions than humans. They -OBVIOUSLY- -OBVIOUSLY- do not make better swashbucklers. THey obviously do not make better bards. They obviously do not make better scouts. How the hell can you be so delusional? Obviously you just dont take the weakness to iron as seriously as you should, or you wouldn't even -consider- that the bonus to charisma outweights the weakness to iron. Also good job forgetting that humans get higher constitution than half-elves, so that even without a weakness to iron, your arguement that half-elves are better is flawed.

You cannot be right. I am obviously right. More than that, I'm OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY RIGHT. I am so obviously right in every way it is foolish for you to even attempt to use your obviously flawed logic to defeat my obviously superior position. Thus ends my unbeatably sound logic in defending an unassailable premise. You may as well vote the way I intend you to else you're a fool and I'll be wholly flabbergasted.

1pt of Con doesn't make that much of a difference. Obviously, you don't understand how important it is to have high dex for being a bard. Humans can't even dance to all of the songs. Pet lag ordering can and will kill you, also you can get the better pets. OBVIOUSLY, you don't know what you are talking about here. I am not going to touch hellions because I don't know crap about them. Hands down they are better bards, by far. In terms of the bard, the iron weakness shouldn't mean anything since they should be using an x-bow from the 3rd row.

Gnimral of course humans are going to have basic stats. But in a game where almost every other class has a -glaring- racial weakness, sometimes up to 3 glaring weaknesses, how can you argue that humans shouldn't have some of their own. Honostly, you guys are total idiots if you don't think that makes humans imbalanced. Your just straight stupid. Its not a complicated concept.

Even Archenar immedietly chimed in basically saying ... " yeah races are completely imbalanced"

Objective activist hit the nail on the head, with an amazingly simple response. Its like he was talking to 1st graders when he said, "racial weaknesses would be fair if the bonus's balanced them out, they don't." Even after he says this, and even after its widely accepted that the racial weaknesses far outweight the bonuses, a gaggle of noobs is here trying to argue that humans and the other races are totally fair.


Okay, and in response to Muktar. Way to forget the massive massive weakness it is to take 1.5 extra damage to iron, -especially- as a bard. Expect instant backstabs/cleaves/charges kills, and no, you shouldn't be 3rd row unless your group pking or in a tribunal. Plus Muktar.... its called haste.

Here's the quote for you. One definition of plagiarism is a deliberate misquote of another.

Except fuzzy math basically goes ahead and says the races are imbalanced so you should probably just delete your post. With archenar there didn't even need to be an arguement, because hes not a -retard-. He looks at the weaknesses and bonus's and immedietly is like yeah.... imbalanced.

Do you know what "seems like" means? Do you realize it's a qualifier to the rest of the statement? Or are you editing that portion out for your own benefit?

lol, Do you know what seems like means? I love how your acting like this is some sort of advanced physics problem, "yes it seems like elves and deep-elves are imbalanced, but i'll have to run more experiments to see." The truth is he probably just randomly choose the words "seems like" even though he blatantly agrees that its imbalanced, and now your trying to argue semantics.

But here, instead of wasting time how about you just say what you think, so I can gauge your IQ. DO you think that the racial weaknesses and bonuses are fair? If you don't think they are fair please shut the [REDACTED] up and vote yes.