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Are humans by -far and away- the best melee race in the game?
Yes, your an idiot for not making a human warrior. 61%  61%  [ 20 ]
No, cold iron vials are sold everywhere. 39%  39%  [ 13 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:52 am 
Ghrok, you fail horribly.

The problem is that humans are 80% of the time, the BEST race stat wise, for any class, AND they have no weaknesses. The other races suck stat-wise AND have massive weaknesses. Oh, but yeah, having innate detect magic IS SUPER HELPFUL! And the "magic resistance" thing, that doesn't help much you're weak against the most commonly used damage spells in the game.

Also, anybody with full iron weakness -WILL- die to a cold-iron backstab/cleave. You have a weakness like that, ON TOP of those races having less CON than most others...SO, massive weakness, AND less hp than everybody else? Have fun dying all the time.


Centaurs are the closest race to being balanced IMO. They have GOOD STATS and they HAVE WEAKNESSES. Elves and Deep-elves however have HORRIBLE STATS and they HAVE THE MOST WEAKNESSES. WTF?


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Syn got what I wanted to say. Many of the innate bonuses are pretty much just minor convenience-related things, or barely useful at all (detect magic and faerie fire, cough).

Glaring weaknesses should be countered with glaring advantages, and most of these races simply seem to have none. Elves and Delves are supposed to be these mystical races, but the only thing powerful about them seems to be their heinously long lifespan. Otherwise, all you see is their glaring weaknesses. And when you can rather easily buff a human warrior into being as big as a giant, as strong as a giant, and as dextrous as a sprite, well that's two races that get shafted right there, along with all the ones that can't reach 25 because of their gimpy stats. It's not an advantage anymore when you can do that. And let's face it: PK in SK, 90% of the time, goes down with prep and at master+... it'd be great if people were just meeting spontaneously in the wilderness at random times and levels and what have you, but that just isn't the way it goes down.

Making a race just sort of better than others, in order to make it the most popular... errr... as a gamer I find that notion to be absolutely ridiculous, but I understand that you're trying to create a world. The game will never be bereft of humans, though. As a game that is about avatars, there will always be people who choose the race they relate to. Well, we're humans. The human adventurer is a classic choice and doesn't require a lot of thought either so it's a common choice for beginners. Having the other races be for, perhaps, more advanced players, is fine. But it shouldn't just be because they're "worse," imo.


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I would also say that Giants are pretty well balanced.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:32 am 
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Humans are in fact the best race in the game atm with their overall stats maxing out at 20 and the +3 to their primary one. The fact that they've no weaknesses whatsoever is incredibly beneficial. Every other 'bonus' other races get can be replaced by the correct amount and type of saves, be it MP, willpower, fortitude or reflex.

I would also like to add that excessive use of caps makes me twitch.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:36 am 
CAPS are GOOD!


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That might be a fix also. Give humans a weakness to something. I don't know what, but something might help the balance issue.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:38 am 
Why is the answer to every question in SK always to wimp something? Why not just make it so that all the other races don't suck so bad? Elves and deep-elves both need more wisdom, and other things. Why do they have like the same(or less, I forget) wisdom than sprites?


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