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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:05 am 
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Lakir wrote:
A naked warlock won't make any saves against all the ways we already discussed you can neutralize him/her.

So your argument 'well you can save against that' just went out the window if you want to start down the 'naked warlock' path.


Yeah, the only problem is that your magma competes in casting time with spells that would render you useless. So you happen across me and start to concentrate, and I start to try to blind you, you'll hit me, my concentration is disrupted, and I've taken 52% damage to a naked foe. Who can then concentrate again, beating me to the punch. Again.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:10 am 
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Only because you failed your spell :P

If you would have landed your spell that failed I would have ran and this thread never would have been created, correct?


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It's not failed, it's didn't have a chance to cast because your magma spray casts too fast and interrupts the blindness.


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I think the point was that he didn't fail his spell, he lost concentration casting it because he took a +50% hit from a single spell.


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No everyone wait for witherwood to respond...

He successfully uttered the words, he just failed the spell and if he wouldn't have failed it this thread never would have been created...

Just so everyone knows the last three times our characters meet in battle I had to run with my tail between my legs because he DID get his spell off first.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:17 am 
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Lakir wrote:
Only because you failed your spell :P

If you would have landed your spell that failed I would have ran and this thread never would have been created, correct?

Until someone did get hit with magma spray. You might not think it's broken to deal 52% damage in one hit, and 25ish% damage in another, all of it taking place in approximately two rounds...but then again, you're the one playing the warlock.

Tell me, why are the changes I proposed to both magma spray and cone of cold so offensive to you? Because then you'd no longer be able to gank people as easily with no prep? You might actually get hit by other spells that way? Swashies and hybrids might be able to hold their own against a naked warlock? Right now you kill them too fast for them to do much of anything. I thought this was the very reason bash was changed.


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Lakir wrote:
No everyone wait for witherwood to respond...

He successfully uttered the words, he just failed the spell and if he wouldn't have failed it this thread never would have been created...

Just so everyone knows the last three times our characters meet in battle I had to run with my tail between my legs because he DID get his spell off first.

A completely resistable spell. How would you feel if my spell had the same cast time as your magma and you had no chance to resist it? You might not care, you run around naked, but I bet plenty of others would be up in arms against it. And yes, my spell failed. I went to cast again. Know what happened? My concentration was disrupted. I was hit again and fled, then died.


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I just think we should give it more than 1 week before saying it needs to be nerfed again.

If after a few months everyone still feels the same way I'll accept that it needs changed.


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If increasing the casting time will make you all shut up I'm all about it.


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Lakir wrote:
I just think we should give it more than 1 week before saying it needs to be nerfed again.

If after a few months everyone still feels the same way I'll accept that it needs changed.


I'm sure you'd love to be able to play around with super magma that long. I'm not saying make it worthless. I don't know why you don't understand that. I've said I don't know how many times that I think they should still be competitive, but I don't think combat should be reduced to what, 2 rounds?


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