Interface help

The Mighty Fluffball · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:39 am

What's the point of VT? I never really got it.

Carsetius · **Joined:** Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:36 am **Posts:** 1471

I can never get it to work on anything but telnet and playing with telnet is like rubbing sandpaper on your ****

instant_karma · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:33 am

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Carsetius · **Joined:** Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:36 am **Posts:** 1471

are you telling me that it is not? Switch from telnet to simpleMU or zMUD or MushClient and then back to telnet. Then you will understand!

Pushing40 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:20 am

I zMUD with VT.

Ezeant · **Joined:** Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:10 am **Posts:** 263

Code:

The paladin camp                          NESWNwNe                              
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
     paladin squire   ( 2)Silver-leafedTempered steel laSilver-leafed brePolishe
d steel coIron ball and chaShirt of polishedThe paladin camp              This c
learing is the base of the latest offensive against the evils that
dwell in this forest. The camp is extremely well-organized, neat and clean.
Most of the soldiers have a look of grim stoicism, though you sense an 
underlying hint of sorrow. Everyone seems to be moving about with purpose.
     It's mostly clear, numbingly frozen, and there is absolutely no wind.  
Obvious exits: n e s w nw ne
              NESWNwNe( 2) (Glowing) A shield has been left here.
     A large spear-like weapon has been left here on the ground.
     A silvery breastplate has been left here.
     A shiny mailled hood lies here in a crumpled heap.
     An odd-looking weapon has been discarded in the dirt here.
     A shiny pile of interwoven chain lies here.
An attentive young squire is here.
A trinoceros walks in from the west.
[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>  [HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>                                                                               
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                     trinoceros       paladin squire   ( 2)Silve
r-leafedTempered steel laSilver-leafed brePolished steel coIron ball and chaShir
t of polished[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]

I've always wanted to use VT and I actually have never figured out to make it work right without distorting everything. Suggestion?

Pushing40 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:52 am

Looks like your VT size is too big maybe. Did you VT EXTEND? Need that as well.

Ezeant · **Joined:** Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:10 am **Posts:** 263

Code:

> vt
auto prompt
look
look
[rHP:              ME:              MV:              Exits:                    
   Af:                                                                          
                                        ***************************************A
n Enclosed Yard            VT Interface on.
You will now see your prompt.
[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
An Enclosed Yard                Sparse plots of wild grasses and other short-c
ut weeds spread underfoot
in this spacious yard.  The ground is surprisingly level, having only a few
short hillocks near its center, and here and there a squat evergreen rises,
none managing to peek over the lofty walls of the monastery, which enclose
the yard completely.  To the north, ornately painted symbols break the
monotony of the unadorned stone walls.  Brightly colored paper lanterns are
hung at intervals upon hooks jutting from the structure. 
   It's mostly clear, very hot, and there is absolutely no wind.  
Obvious exits: e s se
              ESSe     A weeping willow tree stands here elegantly.
Orson is sitting here.
(Charmed) A mighty trinoceros stands here, pawing at the ground.
[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
An Enclosed Yard                Sparse plots of wild grasses and other short-c
ut weeds spread underfoot
in this spacious yard.  The ground is surprisingly level, having only a few
short hillocks near its center, and here and there a squat evergreen rises,
none managing to peek over the lofty walls of the monastery, which enclose
the yard completely.  To the north, ornately painted symbols break the
monotony of the unadorned stone walls.  Brightly colored paper lanterns are
hung at intervals upon hooks jutting from the structure. 
   It's mostly clear, very hot, and there is absolutely no wind.  
Obvious exits: e s se
              ESSe     A weeping willow tree stands here elegantly.
Orson is sitting here.
(Charmed) A mighty trinoceros stands here, pawing at the ground.
[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> vt extend
[rHP:              ME:              MV:              Exits:                    
   Af:                                                                          
                                        ***************************************A
n Enclosed Yard                                  NO MAP                       ||
 -------------- || -------------- ||    you                                     
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                           Orson                             trinoceros       Ag
ed weeping will    4am                                                          
    ESSeVT extend mode on.
[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> l
An Enclosed Yard                Sparse plots of wild grasses and other short-cut
 weeds spread underfoot
in this spacious yard.  The ground is surprisingly level, having only a few
short hillocks near its center, and here and there a squat evergreen rises,
none managing to peek over the lofty walls of the monastery, which enclose
the yard completely.  To the north, ornately painted symbols break the
monotony of the unadorned stone walls.  Brightly colored paper lanterns are
hung at intervals upon hooks jutting from the structure. 
   It's mostly clear, very hot, and there is absolutely no wind.  
Obvious exits: e s se
              ESSe     A weeping willow tree stands here elegantly.
Orson is sitting here.
(Charmed) A mighty trinoceros stands here, pawing at the ground.
[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> l
An Enclosed Yard                Sparse plots of wild grasses and other short-cut
 weeds spread underfoot
in this spacious yard.  The ground is surprisingly level, having only a few
short hillocks near its center, and here and there a squat evergreen rises,
none managing to peek over the lofty walls of the monastery, which enclose
the yard completely.  To the north, ornately painted symbols break the
monotony of the unadorned stone walls.  Brightly colored paper lanterns are
hung at intervals upon hooks jutting from the structure. 
   It's mostly clear, very hot, and there is absolutely no wind.  
Obvious exits: e s se
              ESSe     A weeping willow tree stands here elegantly.
Orson is sitting here.
(Charmed) A mighty trinoceros stands here, pawing at the ground.
[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> The day has begun.
    5am[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]

Yea. Just isn't working quite right. And vt <number> no matter the number, doesn't do anything.

Code:

> vt
[rHP:              ME:              MV:              Exits:                    
   Af:                                                                          
                                        ***************************************A
n Enclosed Yard                                  NO MAP                       ||
 -------------- || -------------- ||    you                                     
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                           Orson                             trinoceros       Ag
ed weeping will    1pm                                                          
    ESSeVT Interface on.
vt extend
[rHP:              ME:              MV:              Exits:                    
   Af:                                                                          
                                        ***************************************A
n Enclosed Yard            VT extend mode off.
vt extend
[rHP:              ME:              MV:              Exits:                    
   Af:                                                                          
                                        ***************************************A
n Enclosed Yard                                  NO MAP                       ||
 -------------- || -------------- ||    you                                     
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                           Orson                             trinoceros       Ag
ed weeping will    1pm                                                          
    ESSeVT extend mode on.
vt extend
[rHP:              ME:              MV:              Exits:                    
   Af:                                                                          
                                        ***************************************A
n Enclosed Yard            VT extend mode off.

Pushing40 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:17 pm

I'm really not sure what's going on. Your client VT compliant? I often feel I'm the only one using VT here. I would be soooo lost without it.

Viltrax · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:38 pm

Bear in mind that very few clients will switch back to "normal mode" (ie, non-VT) properly. Best to turn it off, then close-and-reopen your client to ensure it's not still messed up from the VT settings used previously.

As for what VT should look like in theory, something like this -
http://www.shatteredkingdoms.org/gfx/vt.gif

But it is dependent on your telnet client's VT100 emulation features, which in our experience have been implemented across a wide range from perfect to atrocious. Hence why it isn't pushed much as a feature of SK: only for the intrepid, really.

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