Shattered Kingdoms

Prone should eliminate natural reflex saves. As you are prone, you lack the ability to jump out of the way when a spell is slamming into you. You are essentialy vulnerable.

I agree. I demand a buff to my sorc to make up for my charms walking off when I try to enter Teron through the sky.

You could roll around. You could reflexively cover your face and other vulnerable parts. Do bash and trip really need a buff?

I liked 'other valuable parts'.

Realism shouldn't trump balance. Bad idea.

Bad Idea, No thanks.

I would disagree with eliminate. A slight penalty to reflex saves might be cool but you are not completely immobilised when knocked to the ground.

Why though? I mean really, if you are bashed, you are pretty screwed generally anyways. Who does this really buff anyways? Not fighters, but the mages and I really dont think they need it.

prone already lowers your weapon accuracy which sucks enough.

The prone affect reduces accuracy. Any further affects should also do things which reduce damage output instead of increasing damage taken. This was the problem with bash before prone. It made people take more damage. I'm more for changes which will go to decrease the speed of combat overall instead of making it even faster, as this suggested change would.