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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:35 pm 
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I've written plenty, I know how "in theory" to get something implemented in the game. That's not the point I was getting at. We have plain jane boring [REDACTED] cabals that get 0 attention, and then the shining new guy with all the toys.

That was more along the point.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:37 pm 
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Well we did go without ANY cabal HQ for the better part of a year. "shiny new toys" is one way of putting it...our only HQ is another.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:44 pm 
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The cabal HQ is at the location it is due to its RP background. If you want your HQs relocated, I suggest you submit your ideas. Furthermore, it is well within the range of other HQs, when measuring the distance between it and portal stones.

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Having a cabal HQ that attackers can only get to with flight is one hell of an advantage if you ask me, because that also means they can't flee from it without flight, or a WoR pot.


The usual forum misinformation. We've explained that the flight-only flag was a mistake, due to the area being rewritten and still having its old flags. It was only in place for about a day or two, before we noticed and had it removed. Or are you refering to the island? Who goes into a raid without a WoR potion anyway? You must be suicidial to do so.

Lastly, how difficult is it to go buy one of the zillion flying pets the game has to offer? I'm not even going to refer to all the other options you guys have, but haven't bothered exploring.

Woe if we have some diversity in this game.


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Diversity is for the weak.

Also, Jurithiel sucks.


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Woe if the diversity is only for the few.

It's like being at a birthday party where only the fat people get a piece of cake :(


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alvarro wrote:
Woe if the diversity is only for the few.

It's like being at a birthday party where only the fat people get a piece of cake :(


Has Dark Avenger stolen someone else's forum logon? What particular treatment has this cabal had that makes you so bitter?

This cabal had to play with no or less than maximum number of cabal skills for the better part of a year. They had no cabal HQ for equally long. I see no particular preferential treatment beyond getting the cabal up to the same level as the others after THE PLAYERBASE decided the previous incarnation was simply unworkable. Yes, that involved more attention, but it would have been utterly unfair to leave the cabal in its crippled state.

Oh, and I dont think its too much IC info to say the HQ layout is based on the standard layout - it is only the descriptions that have varied. The location? I couldn't care less.

Personally, I think the imms and players involved over the last year deserve congratulations for their consistency and endurance in getting the mud balanced again.

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+1 for using the phrase "couldn't care less" properly. :)


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Actually, another cabal was approved to have the same kind of treatment BEFORE the headquarters in question were even in question. Its just that nobody has actually done the work to make that happen. Its just a fact of the matter this got done first because of dedicated staff and players. I'm fine with every HQ having an island of their own. It will just take the same kind of stuff the one in question went through. No powers for months, no HQ for months. I've never been the patron of the cabal with the unfinished HQ revamp. If I was, I'd have finished already, so a pair of island HQ's were in the game, instead of just the one.


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I don't care that it's an island. I care that either fly or gate is required to gain access to it at all. Also, fly can be pretty much entirely shut down by control weather. Also, the gate thing can be entirely shut down most likely with a small amount of effort.

Once again, I don't care about it being an island. I care about the tactical advantage that this gives that specific cabal.

Are we going to give Morea a holy aura that prevents people from entering it without sanctuary or shield up if you're not light aura?

What about giving the Fist an aura of peace so that it can't be broken by non-lighties that aren't berserk or frenzied, or perhaps just giant strengthed?

Both of these are awful ideas, just like giving a single HQ a tactical benefit no matter the reasoning.

Two simple fixes.

One, set a wizi NPC in the areas between the mainland and their island to constantly keep the weather calm.

And/Or

Two, set up a "runestone" on the mainland near the general jumping off point to head to said island. Have it loreable. Have the command word for it open a portal to said island.

Both of these off set some/all of the advantage of being on an island surrounded by ocean.

Also, despite anyone saying the same limitations apply to that cabal, not really. Once the HQ is under attack and they went through the effort of getting there, the cabal can simply cabal gate into HQ.

Last thing, Jurithiel I have no idea what you're talking about as far as flight-only flag goes, but all ocean has a flight only flag. You can't swim in it. Also, as I said before. Yes, flight is somewhat trivial to get. Flight is also somewhat trivial to completely deny.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:34 am 
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Maybe these lazy imms can get together and develop these islands out in the ocean.


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