Shattered Kingdoms

I really see no problem with omfg, sitting in an inn and RPing!? As long as they aren't sitting there confessing their undying love for each other or something.

I'd love to know who Demon is playing, since he is apparently this pillar of stellar RP. I'm going to take a wild guess and say you play a deep-elf.

Everybody is going to RP enmity differently.

The problem with stuff like this, is you have no way in hell of knowing what goes on privately, be it via tells, or meetings away from other people, etc.

Ealuriel has told people to leave elves alone before, and I think it was perfectly fine, because she meant it as like ownership.

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure Demon meant something like sitting in an inn chatting it up like old buds. There's nothing wrong if they're in the same room, rping their enmity and lack of tolerance, as long as they're not comfortable with each others presence.

My character's religion usually affects my behavior around other races than my own.

I don't think that's what anyone was implying in this thread, perhaps you are thinking of discussions that have taken place elsewhere?



That wasn't the point of my analogy, I obviously should have been more clear. Obviously Johnny doesn't think that each bean he comes across is the one that killed his parents. The point of the analogy was that enmity isn't something an elf or deep-elf can simply "overcome". It's irreversible.



I gave plenty of examples of how one could RP out enmity non-violently and without leaving. It should never be a comfortable or easy situation though. That's the wonderful challenge of playing one of these races.



I've restrained myself from commenting on the "hidden roleplay" defense. Really, it is a poor one. This is a game that hinges on involving people in the storyline of your character. There should always be hints available to those around you so they understand that there's more going on behind the scenes than just a player sitting AFK in an inn. But really, this is a different thread all together.



In SK there are certain standards that are set out in the helpfiles that we must adhere to. There are specific ways in which different alignments are expected to act. There are specific ideologies that are adhered to by certain classes, cabals and tribunals. And there are certain expectations of races such as elves and deep-elves. If we ignore these standards, then we would lose the unique culture that sets SK out from other games. I liken enmity to traits such as size. If a player was to roll a sprite and then describe him or herself as 5 feet tall, we would all think it was ridiculous. Think of all the guff paladins get when they "play out of their alignment". It is the same thing.

Thankfully, I'm not an immortal and I do not have to police these types of things. So, my opinion matters no more than any one else in this thread. This is how I interpret the helpfiles and how I hope to see the game played. The reason I play SK is because of the rich culture it has. I dislike the idea of elves and deep-elves being played the same as one would play a human or a half-elf. It seems to be a discredit to their unique heritages.

EDIT: I just reread this entire thread and everyone who posted in support of a more strict view of enmity specifically said in their posts that they didn't mean that enmity had to lead to death. So, those of you are bringing it up are sidetracking the conversation.

Yeah, and the President can say the Government needs more money, but he's not going to raise taxes.

He's probably lying.

I've been playing a delf for 20+ IC years. Enmity is fine.

Everyone - quick! Let's all drop our personal opinions and thought processes! Syn's played a delf for 20+ yrs IC, people, she MUST be the definitive judge of what is and should be.






/sarcasm
/snarky amusement

Syn, you sit in Teron's inn with a certain elf sorceror all the time and shoot the crap, I don't want to hear it. I've seen it multiple times now.

That certain elf sorc is usually charmed by Ealuriel when they're sitting there "shooting the crap."

What, Dungeons and Dragons?

Ba dum tsh.

Not mine!

My -60+ IC year- elf also says that enmity is alive and well.




I will speak for Caeserea briefly in this thread, because while I RP enmity pretty consistently, she is more likely to act on disgust with Lighties acting like deep elves than deep elves acting like deep elves.

Just the roleplay of the character. Don't box people in, folks.