Shattered Kingdoms

Interesting change of topic. I do agree though.

I agree with Ardith also. In fact, it is because you don't currently get any increase in your stats automatically that the impact of this "issue" is so very very small. Look at how many characters reach 3/4 age max, then look at how many of them are gnomes and deep-elves, then look at how many people accumulate enough att points to dump into two mental stats, then look at how many of them have already maxed out their mana trains so that they'd benefit from an increase in the maximum and you'll see how big of a deal it is.

I wouldn't care if gnomes and deep-elves had the opportunity to train one more mana point instead of the wis/int respectively, I just think this request is about 553849th on the priority list of changes.

That's true. I agree with aridith as well. If a 25 con dwarf ages he looses a con point. It's that simple. Yet he doesn't get a point to wis or int. Wis could be useful in berserking and what not. If stats go down they should go up too.

I'm pretty sure that even if your physical stats aren't maxed, you still lose points in them. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know if I've ever age ticked a character.

You do lose the points.

Wait . . . let me ask to make sure I'm understanding this right. If you have your INT maxed, but your STR nowhere near max, and you hit that age-tick, the maximum stat for INT goes up by one, but your -actual- and maximum stat for STR go down?

I asked about this when I first started playing, as I was interested in playing a race with potentially high racial maximums. Here is what I remember learning from that thread:

1. There is a universal maximum for all attributes no mortal can overcome by any means. Under no means can this limit be breeched.
2. There are existential maximums for all attributes determined by race. They change with age, under the effects of spells, and with certain special perks in the game.

For certain races, the racial maximum is, in fact, the universal maximum. Deep-elf intelligence, dwarf (constitution was it?), giant strength... fresh out of character creation, the racial maximums represent the highest potential mortal values.

During the aging process, the existential maximums shift: the maximum of certain physical stats decreases while the maximum for certain mental stats increases (but never above the universal maximum.)

This means that if you select a race whose attribute ceiling is the universal maximum, you will either eventually lose or fail to gain ground depending on whether you select a physical or a mental stat.

What I do not know is what happens in this scenario: a character with his strength at half of the racial maximum ages, and his maximum potential strength score decreases. Does his actual strength score decrease as well, even though it was not at the previously-held maximum?

In other words: I have the same question as baldric.

You don't lose the points unless you brought them to their maximum. However, if you do max them out you are forced to lose (technically) whatever you put into those stats.

Thanks, Ardith, for clearing that up. That's what I had thought.