Shattered Kingdoms

I'm pretty sure that socials aren't understood across the language barrier either: It isn't just emotes. I was playing an elf and ran across a deep-elf in the outpost, and we sat there for 5 minutes yelling at each other and making incomprehensible gestures. I personally thought it was pretty funny.

That said: Learning languages -really- isn't hard, not even for the used to be reclusive firmyrn. Any mentor+ PC can probably teach half the languages in the game, and anyone level 10 or above can learn them all with half a level of exp or less, more like no exp lost at all above level 20. While I'm pretty sure that this isn't your point, learning languages, even for a new player, isn't that hard. As long as you're dealing with people who didn't just jump right out of the creation halls, you won't even have to worry them not seeing your emotes. Worst case scenario, if you're with a newbie, just switch to his language. Ta da.

As for the says within emotes change: That may happen, it may not. I personally haven't seen any emote changes in the past 5+ years, so I doubt it. But the point is that of all things, that's no reason to not enjoy the game, or not to invite other players who may enjoy it. This is a very small thing when you get around to it.


Also, unless you go overboard and start creating a -lot- of threads over this one thing, I doubt that you will get banned from the forums. These IMMs aren't the sort to ban someone just because they're insistent on their new ideas: Conversely, they're also not the sort to care whether or not you leave because your cool idea wasn't immediately implemented as soon as you started playing.


Oh wait.


I never use YIM (Or any other sort of OOC medium except playing in the same room as a friend/relative on rare occasions). Never have, never will.

Int mod's are your friend, with all six slots field, you can learn all languages with about a tick of experence around lvl 10.

I'd say Piala lost a lot of the "don't pick on the new kid" charm when she unintentionally (of course) played a very very subtle version of the "or else I'll leave" card. That's one great thing about the staff here: you can't MAKE them do anything. You have to either sleep with them or convince them and hope that no one else slept with them. (I love you guys, but you're more corrupt than the Iranian vote.)

In my experience, your skill with a language gives you a better chance of understanding an emote. In other words, if you had it trained to Awful, you'd get maybe one emote in like ten or twenty...if that. Speech is pretty much completely unintelligible (as are emotes) until you have the language to Very Good. Sometimes you can understand a death threat when you have it at Good. Anything lower than that, and you might as well not have it trained at all.

Perhaps any emotes with the ' or " characters in the command line might simply be blocked. Would that work well enough? You can't speak without quotation marks, and if you try you're probably too stupid for anyone to understand you in the first place.

Just to be clear socials do work across the language barriers. I just tested it.

I use pemote all the time.

I WILL EAT YOUR MFing SOUL!

pemote blue eyes widen slightly as he stares in terror at the nine-fingered woman.


On topic:
I agree with jhorleb that it would be preferable to keep emote and language separate, and then police abuse.

That being said, it takes no effort at all to just learn the languages and understand people's emotes. If you really wanted to, you could learn the languages and then rp that you don't actually understand what people are saying.
Train the languages from some npc's and then pretend it never happened. You'll understand emotes but your character doesn't have to understand anything you don't want her to. It's a lot easier than trying to get code changed in this game, especially when there's a legitimate reason the code is the way it is.

I tried doing something like that once elsewhere. I said I couldn't fly, even though I codedly had wings. I was RPing that they were too damaged to carry me. Another player forced me to fly.

I'm not going to get things like that here... right?

Languages have this advantage: They encourage low-level players to stay in their kingdoms, instead of running all over Pyrathia looking for optimum sites. It's nice that kingdoms give some shared experiences to people who start there. Early levelling is easy enough now; learning a language or three is no great burden for eager explorers.

I really doubt anyone is going to:

cast 'charm' pialia
order pialia speak empire
order pialia say I can speak imperial!!!
cackle
release 1


I mean . . . how else would someone force you to speak a language or understand a language?