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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:52 am 
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I believe there is a spell and a skill that are devoted to telling you specific details of an item. I don't know the exact terms that indicate which statuses, but there are ways of assessing whether or not something would be stolen from your person. Perhaps there should be a revision of the help file for identify and lore to make things less foggy.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:00 am 
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Reference the script on the weaponsmith in Seawatch. I've always liked that one.

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I was talking with someone recently about this, and they said there's a way to determine the "level" of an item from its identify. I won't say how, in case I'd get in trouble, but I had a question myself about items getting stolen. I'm a 4th-level mentor (maybe 3rd at the time), and I can't keep this item:

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This is a vest of chainmail and scale, a medium scale armor, weighing approximately 10 lbs. Protection is average vs. Pierce, average vs. Bash and average vs. Slash. It is of superior quality and is worth approximately 300 silver. It bears an enchantment to moderately increase combat endurance. It bears an enchantment to slightly increase fortitude.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:55 pm 
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The quality of the item tells you its level. In your case, superior quality.

The ranks of quality are as follows taken from help identify, and I'm pretty sure that the status levels I have attached them to is almost exactly accurate.
Poor (Amateur to Novice)
Average (Initiate to Apprentice)
Above Average (Journeyman to Veteran)
Superior (Expert to Mentor)
Outstanding (Master to Champion)
Near god-like (Grandmaster)

So for your chainmail vest in particular, it's probably in the very upper end of superior and thus the upper ranks of Mentor: You were likely only two advancements at most away from being able to keep it, and even then you're unlucky to have lost it, because the closer your level gets to the item the less likely it is to be stolen.

Keep in mind that enchanting an item also increases its quality, and that the first ten enchantments for an item do not count as far as level thieves are concerned, so conceivably something that starts out as "superior quality" can be enchanted to have "outstanding quality," yet still be kept by an expert or mentor with no risk of losing it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:13 pm 
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Actually its a vet item by level and the enchantments on it must be enough to put it over your level.


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Well, the vest identified above clearly didn't have more than one enchantment added to it, so that shouldn't affect it getting stolen by logout thieves.


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it had 3-4 baldric. The combat endurance counts.


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It starts with the combat endurance, so it would appear that it starts out at the quality it is identified at (superior). I don't understand what you mean when you say that it is "actually" a veteran level item, when it could never possibly have actually been that level. Do you mean that if it were a different item (one that hadn't been given combat endurance), it would be a lower level? We're probably just arguing semantics, but I don't really understand what you were trying to say when you contradicted Turon.


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The items level. You can tell what level it is set at. Any enchants on it raise that level regardless of whether or not they come on it naturally or are placed on it later. So i guess technically it will never be vet, if it comes with those hp mods off the bat


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I think we were just arguing semantics. We both agree the item was never veteran status. Also note that when I said it only had one "added" to it, I meant by a pc, not a coder.


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