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 Post subject: General game play
PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:03 pm 
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So I recently came back to play a little bit to see how the game has change.

D u what have you done to the nice good game you once had.

1st thing I noticed was that all skills from a war-type class(swash,rogue,merc, barb) all require PE- only there is no advanced form of endurance to balance that out and endurance to far up to tree to be useful to newbies.

more to come as I play.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:45 am 
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Enhanced Endurance has been mentioned before, but I'm not sure if it's going to happen. WB


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:55 am 
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Train PE for quicker regen and larger PE pools. That's enhanced endurance.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:57 am 
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Achernar wrote:
Train PE for quicker regen and larger PE pools. That's enhanced endurance.


There is never enough training sessions left to train PE. And if that's your case, Mana is what? An enhanced enhanced ME recovery?

EDIT: Rennus below has a good point but I was pointing out that PE is so far the list of priority for training that it's worthless. And like he said, by the time you get to veteran, you have so much natural PE it's ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:57 am 
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And the grand sum of which is - by ~vetern - You have wasted 3-8 trains.

Just roll a character that starts in a specific kingdom where snow is not uncommon. 'nuff said.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:58 am 
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Ive been told that a lot of changes where made to get group pvp and group rp happen more. After seeing the changes, I can't see how that would be. The game has be nurfed the point where most players have left. Player base is a joke compared to what it was, so I was wondering why the changes? if they failed to do anything but make players leave.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:04 am 
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Rodwen wrote:
There is never enough training sessions left to train PE. And if that's your case, Mana is what? An enhanced enhanced ME recovery?


Doing this for ME is actually a viable reason. Because you will generally spend way more time sleeping to regen ME than you do PE. Having a bigger mana pool is nice too.

And when you dump 10 trains into something, the regen boost is noticeable.

It also is incredibly noticeable on the tick-to-tick drain while holding spells. I could hold 2 charms and MI and lose like 1-2% ME per tick.

PE trains are laughable.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 am 
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WickedWitch wrote:
Rodwen wrote:
There is never enough training sessions left to train PE. And if that's your case, Mana is what? An enhanced enhanced ME recovery?


Doing this for ME is actually a viable reason. Because you will generally spend way more time sleeping to regen ME than you do PE. Having a bigger mana pool is nice too.

And when you dump 10 trains into something, the regen boost is noticeable.

It also is incredibly noticeable on the tick-to-tick drain while holding spells. I could hold 2 charms and MI and lose like 1-2% ME per tick.

PE trains are laughable.


:D I train mana on EVERY caster to max, regardless.

I was just pointing out the fact that ME has Meditation, Trance, and Mana trains. PE only has Endurance and PE trains, so PE still needs one more to be balanced with ME.

And like you said, PE trains don't really count, so you could say PE needs two more. :devil:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:46 am 
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This actually kinda scared me, when I first came back. My character would run out of PE LOOONNNG before he'd ever run out of HP. And this led to several 'wasted' points in PE. And yeah, at earlier levels you don't necessarily have endurance and it sucks.
But look at the bigger picture. This balances things out a bit, casters lose ME for doing all THEIR tricks.. melee classes shouldn't be able to just trip and fight and such all day long and never get tired.
And while I feel your pain, trust me, after those early levels it balances out into something managable that both serves a purpose and adds realism.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:49 am 
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You shouldn't be using bash/trip/dirt kick while leveling until like Mentor+. Order your horse to bash if you have to.


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