Shattered Kingdoms

AFAIK, that hasn't happened. I don't even know if a voodoo kill makes body parts.

A doll is good for like. 5 uses though.

More voodoo QQ.

Unfortunately I have eaten all of my popcorn as of yesterday so I will need to go to the store to buy some more.

I only know of Syn using seance two times, against Ghanima and Syric. Ghanima was at my request and we had extended RPz. Syric didn't want to RP. I don't see what the problem is though. As Finney mentioned if someone had died they'd be subject to the full loot. I don't see why voodoo should be an exception. It is useful for dehoarding hoarders that do no risk things and log minimal hours. I remember doing it to Sypher's sorc when he left the adepts, and then looted him.

There have been more heinous applications of seance. This is just limp-wristed QQ from a player that has never really experienced the grief machine.

This sounds like an awesome RP premise, I actually can't wait for it to happen to me. It makes sense that a Priest/Shaman would know how to bind a spirit, though not typically use it.

That said, if it's happening frequently and there isn't RP opportunity, you're being grieved. Frankly I think a good guideline to decide if something is being abused, or if you are just missing an RP opportunity because you want to play FPS is to replace whatever you are complaining about with PK.

I got Pkd and my corpse got looted. I got seanced and my corpse got looted.

I got Pkd 6 times today, and looted most of them. I got seanced 6 times today, and looted most of them.

etc etc.

Frankly it sounds like evil players are playing too evil for you. It's not like good Priests wouldn't use this ability for a 'just cause.' Ofc if I'm assuming the wrong way about the alignment here you have plenty of RP opportunity to spread word of the corruption and vile tactics of your enemies. Unless you have a holy relic, or some other RP reason I can not see how this isn't a corrupt practice.

Yes I am long winded. Sorry.

I think it's legitimate to ask whether seance should be used this way. Unless an IMM says otherwise, though, this doesn't strike me as abuse. It seems to make perfect sense ICly, and hasn't been said to be against the rules. It's not griefing if it only lasts 10 minutes. When you die, your loot is forfeit. I agree with the people who said that the real issue here is voodoo.

When you die to voodoo, your loot is not inherently forfeit, and to think so is insane. If that were true, people who could die to voodoo would just never log in the same time as an enemy shaman.

With this, someone could be sitting in the safest place possible, get voodoo'd, and then seanced for as long as the shaman seancing was "RPing," which really just means as long as is necessary for his/her allies to go grab the loot, regardless of how long that takes. In this case, it took 10 minutes, sure, but if I happened to be voodoo'd while inside my keep, for example, I guarantee you I'd end up seanced for as long as was necessary for them to break down the outer guardian and go grab my crap. And you can bet I won't be in the mood to "RP" then.

Allowing shaman to not only voodoo someone, but also keep them from being resurrected to get their stuff back discourages people from playing the game, because no matter or what precautions they take they can get full-looted without being able to do anything about it. I don't want SK to be a game where someone logs in, then realizes that they may as well log out unless they feel like getting full-looted regardless of what they do.

My main reason for posting this thread was to get some IMM-response, hopefully Dulrik, to see if this it's acceptable to have a spell in-game whose sole purpose for the last 2-3 years has been to keep people from being able to get resurrected, which doesn't seem to be the purpose that it was created for.

So this is just a loot QQ?

If you die in PK then you might as well kiss your loot goodbye. Why should you expect to keep your loot when you die to voodoo? Seems you're too concerned with loot.

Hey Ardith, news flash: Loot is the entire point of using seance against someone's will. It's the point of this thread. Glad to have you in on it, you know, considering that you're the one grabbing people's loot while Keleza seances them.

Hey, Edoras.

You know. When you get wtfpwned. Repeatedly. You can like. RP that. And stop RPing HOLY [REDACTED] RAWR I AM the BIGGEST BADASS EVER. But, yet again. I seem to be the only player on this [REDACTED] game who can RP a loss.

When somebody can drop you any time, anywhere? You can RP that, too. But again, nobody on SK is ever allowed to RP failure, apparently.

If you're getting raped by voodoo. Gasp. Try getting the shaman to leave you the [REDACTED] alone. That's what I did when Grakus and them voodoo'd me and GUESS WHAT IT NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN. HOLY [REDACTED]. I KNOW HOW TO DO the RPZ.

Anyways. I foresee a test of my 140% mana pool + doll vs a certain gnome's HP pool. Hope you've got scripted protection or something.

P.S. I will totes throw in a seance, just for you, Eddy.

It certainly wasn't in the case of Ghanima, and we seanced her against her will, she certainly didn't know it was going to happen. I certainly don't see her player coming here crying rivers of tears either.

I'm not talking at all about RPing a loss. I'm talking about you using a spell that to me seems contrary to its original purpose in order to grab people's loot after voodooing them. This is the gameplay forum, and I'm discussing skills and spells, not RP of cabals or players.

However, in answer to your Ad Hominem, if you feel that it is fitting RP for my character to turn into a bucket of tears and fall at the feet of someone who helps jail him on one occasion, hoping that they'll just be nice and leave him alone, then you've got another thing coming.