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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:45 am 
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Thead necro because the previous page in particular is the heart of a current discussion taking place elsewhere.

Although I don't mind other players weighing in, I'd like to have some immortal (or coder) perspective on this: with the understanding that it is an out-of-character action compensating for bugged NPCs / items, is it still considered an offense for lighties to kill lightie NPCs that have either not been flagged correctly, or when a requested item is blown up, which results in the item not respawning correctly?


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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:48 am 
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Dude I watched lighties IC butcher and sell other lightie NPC's loot on a regular basis. It is ok so long as you don't get caught. Seriously. :drunk:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:24 pm 
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Dude I watched lighties IC butcher and sell other lightie NPC's loot on a regular basis. It is ok so long as you don't get caught. Seriously. :drunk:


You just got done saying you're forum trolling and you have no stake in the game. Apparently, integrity is not your thing. But hey, if you like being a liar IRL, more power to you, loser.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:57 pm 
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Any item that appears to be contrary to your character's IC persona can be penalized at any time by an administrator. Killing a fellow light-aura for gear falls under this, regardless of whether it is a PC or NPC. If you see other people do this, you should report them. If the NPC in question is flagged incorrectly, you should typo log it.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:12 pm 
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Fair enough. Thanks for the speedy response.


EDIT: I have to admit, I'm a little surprised at the heavy-handed response, as I would have expected a little bit of grace where typos are at play. But that's a risk you take when you ask the question.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:14 pm 
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Dulrik wrote:
Any item that appears to be contrary to your character's IC persona can be penalized at any time by an administrator. Killing a fellow light-aura for gear falls under this, regardless of whether it is a PC or NPC. If you see other people do this, you should report them. If the NPC in question is flagged incorrectly, you should typo log it.



What about slaughtering your allies as a grey aura in order to farm coin? I have seen both of these things done in the past.
There has been a lot of questionable things, I have seen very little of it punished so I have to wonder if it's valid or not. Gold farming seems to supercede IC conduct also.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:22 pm 
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Pushing40 wrote:
spidermonkey wrote:
Dude I watched lighties IC butcher and sell other lightie NPC's loot on a regular basis. It is ok so long as you don't get caught. Seriously. :drunk:


You just got done saying you're forum trolling and you have no stake in the game. Apparently, integrity is not your thing. But hey, if you like being a liar IRL, more power to you, loser.



I do have a vested interest in fairness and equality so that everyone can have fun.

There have been other times that I have pointed stuff out that it seemed to work, so I will continue to do that. If I see some sense of fairness and fun infused into the game I may have a more vested interest in devoting my time into it.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:08 am 
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Whether or not you should kill grey auras as a light-aura character isn't black or white. (Go figure.) There may be some justifications depending on whether you are principled or scrupulous, the alignment of the grey-aura character and what types of activities they are engaged in. But in general, light-auras should not be killing grey-auras. I would expect light-auras to be requesting from light-auras, looting dark-auras, and only obtaining grey-aura items if they were purchased from a shop.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:54 am 
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That's a pretty dumb restriction on items.

Light-aura characters should not be penalized just because you introduced a requesting mechanic to the MUD.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:01 am 
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Except that request wasn't added as a restriction, it was added as a bonus.

Without request, there would be no way for a lightie to get EQ from lightie NPCs unless they got it through PKing darkies.


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