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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:31 am 
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Nightwing wrote:
That's a pretty dumb restriction on items.

Light-aura characters should not be penalized just because you introduced a requesting mechanic to the MUD.


I think it is pretty spot on for the most part. The problem is not with the light aura characters, it generally is with the people that roll grey auras, and roleplay as darkies.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:40 am 
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I'd like to see better alignment enforcement.


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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:41 am 
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Tragonis wrote:
I'd like to see better alignment enforcement.


As would I, but over some of the development of the character, only in the case of grey auras, if they are shoved hard core by the light or the dark, could it not be assumed they would choose one side over another in the end? Or start to favor one aspect. Especially with a grey aura an argument could legitimately be made, not always. But in individual cases I would say there may be a case for it.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:01 am 
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Mourning Song wrote:
Tragonis wrote:
I'd like to see better alignment enforcement.


As would I, but over some of the development of the character, only in the case of grey auras, if they are shoved hard core by the light or the dark, could it not be assumed they would choose one side over another in the end? Or start to favor one aspect. Especially with a grey aura an argument could legitimately be made, not always. But in individual cases I would say there may be a case for it.


Pretty sure he's referring to all alignments, not just greys. I think most people would be in favor of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:11 am 
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ObjectivistActivist wrote:
Mourning Song wrote:
Tragonis wrote:
I'd like to see better alignment enforcement.


As would I, but over some of the development of the character, only in the case of grey auras, if they are shoved hard core by the light or the dark, could it not be assumed they would choose one side over another in the end? Or start to favor one aspect. Especially with a grey aura an argument could legitimately be made, not always. But in individual cases I would say there may be a case for it.


Pretty sure he's referring to all alignments, not just greys. I think most people would be in favor of that.


Understood that, hence the As would I I just followed it with the argument that grey auras could be pushed one way or another and rp it out solidly why they favor one alignment or another.


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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:12 am 
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I think grey aura should be grounds for murdering no matter lightie or darkie. They COULD side with the opposition at any moment!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:18 am 
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I think grey aura should be grounds for murdering no matter lightie or darkie. They COULD side with the opposition at any moment!


Your paranoia is showing :P


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:32 am 
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Paranoia? I prefer homicide mania.


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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:00 am 
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Chiming in here as the recent discussion came up related to my character's actions. I'm not generally concerned with justifying myself to other players when it comes to disagreements over gameplay, but I'd specifically like to hear from Dulrik if this is not considered valid or within the intended rules of the game by the staff.

I think it's unjustifiable to wordlessly roll through light aura areas slaughtering people for gear as a lightie and that certain things - priests, divine creatures, noncombatants, rulers, judges, etc - are obviously off limits. However my elf did authorize killing the paladin in Cain Techt on a limited basis as necessary to respawn his gear.

So first off - absolutely there was OOC motivation driving the choice. It is hard to do many things on this game without proper equipment. However, I think we can admit that and still say that it was consistent with lightie RP and specifically the Hammer. Anyone who was snooping us would have noted that my character was apologetic, instructive, and went to pretty great lengths to purify himself after. The RP was that the Hammer of Light had an obvious need, that there would not be any lasting harm as the NPC clearly had a source for res and knew how to find the way back, and that we prayed for him to be granted the insight to find new armor for us upon his resurrection prior to his return to his post.

A little bit of a stretch? Sure. But this is a paladin we're talking about sworn to defense of the light, not a random light aura priest or random farmer. I think that in certain very limited situations for certain lightie characters it can be valid, as long as it is consistent with the character's RP and played out accordingly.


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 Post subject: Re: Request vs enchanting
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:02 am 
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Paladins are principled not scrupulous. It's one of the issues I have with most people who play them. Life above all else, it's a really hard thing to play. For a paladin to issue the order to repeatedly kill another paladin just for his gear and the greater good is scrupulous at passable, not principled.

Goes back to hellions being abbherent also, people see them as dark aura and all dark auras have the ability to just do whatever they want and call dark aura.

Enforcing alignment would be nice, it's been called for far too often, but I don't see any big push now or in the near future.


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