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 Post subject: Re: Art
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:17 am 
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Shaman don't get scrolls?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:21 am 
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Edoras wrote:
Shaman don't get scrolls?


I think he meant his two statements as two entirely separate clauses.

1) Art is worth training for any class with scrolls.

2) You said that hellions are the only one of the three maledicting classes that need a buff, but I disagree. Shamans suck monkey balls.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:22 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:55 am 
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jhorleb wrote:
Edoras wrote:
Shaman don't get scrolls?


I think he meant his two statements as two entirely separate clauses.

1) Art is worth training for any class with scrolls.

2) You said that hellions are the only one of the three maledicting classes that need a buff, but I disagree. Shamans suck monkey balls.


I am pretty sure that Syn showed that this is not the case by racking up a higher kill count on a shaman in a 2 month period than most people (prolific PKers) do in a character's lifetime. This is also mostly solo work. Shamans have call lightning, dispel magic, weaken, slow, curse, blindness, deafness, spirit horde for bashing, brew, heal, and can wear light armor, just to name a few things. They also get spirit aura, and dodge, something priests don't have, and so they can do a lot of things. With a little work, and imagination, they can gank any other class, especially now that dispel magic has both been buffed, and is an impairment spell. Having been recently struck by dispel magic, I can say that it is probably going to be a lot more brutal than it has ever been in the past.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:07 am 
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Shamans really do not suck at all.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:30 am 
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Hey, to clarify, I don't think shamans suck either. I was just translating for Eddy.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:40 am 
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Shaman aren't that great for -securing- kills given that against enchanted and prepped opponents they don't have any burst damage or way of holding anyone still. However, given their extreme survivability and extensive offensive and defensive spellset, they're very versatile and useful in any battle as long as they take the correct role.

I just read Algon's post wrong.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:07 pm 
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Edoras wrote:
Shaman aren't that great for -securing- kills given that against enchanted and prepped opponents they don't have any burst damage or way of holding anyone still. However, given their extreme survivability and extensive offensive and defensive spellset, they're very versatile and useful in any battle as long as they take the correct role.

I just read Algon's post wrong.


And like I said, they shaman are priests that suck. Priests are just more useful for everything - damage, surviving, utility, etc.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:59 pm 
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Priests don't get call lightning, dispel or sleep, which are all extremely good. Priests also can't tank for squat.


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Priests also don't get control weather, which at call lightning standards virtually neutralizes ranged combat.


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