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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:47 pm 
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Oh, poo . . . It seems my log didn't take for some reason, but I *DID* receive a nice OOC tell from you saying that you were tired of playing Imenant because all you had left was his racist RP.

Also, why would someone who is NOT racist spend the bulk of his effort trying to pry the capitol city away from the most defensible place in the nation for no reason other than that Sith is the elf city?

1. You acknowledged IC that you felt that elves had too much influence. I countered by suggesting that there was no issue since Thalion was gone and no other elves sought to lord over the other races.
2. I asked IC who else thinks that elves have TOO MUCH influence in the Alliance. Your answer was, "I don't care what anyone else thinks."
3. You were told ICly by an Immortal-piloted NPC that the city shouldn't (and wouldn't) be moved for a number of reasons that were plainly spelled out for you. You insisted that it MUST be moved to erase the overbearing influence of the elves . . . (see point 1.)
4. You insisted that Iliphalia was blinded by elven pride, even though it's well established that she HATES High Elven culture and rejects the notion that elves are superior to anyone except deep elves.
5. You refused to use established titles (whatever) simply because the elves had come up with them.
6. Countless elves have been pushed aside in your RP simply for being elves. I have heard, even on my alt character, people complaining about how you treated them.


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:24 pm 
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Seems to me a pretty obvious case of "My way or the highway". Mez, you wanted Imenant to run things one way. Immstaff and players alike disagreed. So you got the highway.

Sorry, good luck with your next.


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:15 pm 
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Actively trying to find someone else to be flagged leader so I could delete and roll another character is not considered trying to run things my way?


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:18 pm 
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meztiso wrote:
Actively trying to find someone else to be flagged leader so I could delete and roll another character is not considered trying to run things my way?


You see. Contrary to the other thread participants, I am not inclined or have the time to actually deal with this. It's my opinion. You may or may not agree, I could care less. You have nothing to prove to me and frankly, I don't care. I didn't like Imenant's attitude anyway.

So. Really. Quit wasting time on an afterlife thread. Go roll your next.


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Oh, poo . . . It seems my log didn't take for some reason, but I *DID* receive a nice OOC tell from you saying that you were tired of playing Imenant because all you had left was his racist RP.

Also, why would someone who is NOT racist spend the bulk of his effort trying to pry the capitol city away from the most defensible place in the nation for no reason other than that Sith is the elf city?

1. You acknowledged IC that you felt that elves had too much influence. I countered by suggesting that there was no issue since Thalion was gone and no other elves sought to lord over the other races.
2. I asked IC who else thinks that elves have TOO MUCH influence in the Alliance. Your answer was, "I don't care what anyone else thinks."
3. You were told ICly by an Immortal-piloted NPC that the city shouldn't (and wouldn't) be moved for a number of reasons that were plainly spelled out for you. You insisted that it MUST be moved to erase the overbearing influence of the elves . . . (see point 1.)
4. You insisted that Iliphalia was blinded by elven pride, even though it's well established that she HATES High Elven culture and rejects the notion that elves are superior to anyone except deep elves.
5. You refused to use established titles (whatever) simply because the elves had come up with them.
6. Countless elves have been pushed aside in your RP simply for being elves. I have heard, even on my alt character, people complaining about how you treated them.


point 1: Elves having to much influence has nothing to do with Thalion.
point 2: My answer was actually to name PC's who wanted to move the capitol like Woognit, and Drakey. Who were also guardians.
point 3: I was actually told to find more suitable location then Tethos or Cloister. your point 1 had nothing to do with anything, and this point does not change that.
point 4: Iliphalia could say whatever she wants about not having an ego, but she refused covered her ears and yelled blah blah blah when any conversation of balancing out influence between the races was brought up.
point 5: Those titles are deeply engrained in Elf culture. Accepting them is counter to balancing the influence of races.
Point 6: Treated people bad for being elves? Never. I always offered all aid i could to anyone from ayamao regardless of race. Elves were treated the same as all other races.


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meztiso wrote:
Actively trying to find someone else to be flagged leader so I could delete and roll another character is not considered trying to run things my way?


You see. Contrary to the other thread participants, I am not inclined or have the time to actually deal with this. It's my opinion. You may or may not agree, I could care less. You have nothing to prove to me and frankly, I don't care. I didn't like Imenant's attitude anyway.

So. Really. Quit wasting time on an afterlife thread. Go roll your next.


My last post right before yours was asking people to stop trying to defend Iliphalias blatant OOC imm preference and just focus on Imenant. You ignored it and went back to the blatant OOC imm Preference. So you can say you don't have time, you just don't act like it.


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:10 pm 
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point 4: Iliphalia could say whatever she wants about not having an ego, but she refused covered her ears and yelled blah blah blah when any conversation of balancing out influence between the races was brought up.


Yes, she refused to talk about it because the ONLY thing you could do in the conversation was repeat how arrogant she was for not considering moving the capitol. Three hours of the same repetitive [REDACTED] conversation is enough. I'm not investing that kind of time IC or OOC in your stupidity.


You know it had EVERYTHING to do with Thalion. That you kept bringing him up as an example of what was wrong with elves made it all completely transparent.


DRIVE THRU. K THNX.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:12 pm 
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That Thalion sure sounds like a rock star 8)


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:16 pm 
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The idea was Woognit to begin with. Thalion was but 1 elf in a long list.


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:07 pm 
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Ok all I can say is that as Tensarie, well he did not like Imenant and was a main reason he started to keep away from Ayamao's problems. He felt Imenant just wanted to kill a bunch of elves and treat them baddly. So then you wonder why he turn Imenant away, oh yeah cause Tens was married to a Elf from Sith'a'niel. As Nakoro, well he just got bad mouthed and picked on by Imenant all the time and could not stand the guy in any way, shape, or form. He wanted to be a guardian, but not under Imenant's command. Thats why he waited to see if someone else would become a leader. So yeah I would say Imenant had a problem with elves if he picked on and bad mouth Nakoro, comparing him to Thalion all the time, say he would upset Imenant and prove that he can't be trusted. I was so close to deleting him cause of Imenant.

So no love lost here man.


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 Post subject: Re: [Hum Brb] [GUARDIAN] Imenant Razor,Combatant of the Cycl
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:57 pm 
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I don't know about all the politics that went on in Ayamao, just heard bits and pieces, but Imeant was a good character from what I could see from various characters. I want to say that tribunal membership in SK is very often underappreciated. You can't please everyone. You can do one thing and create a ripple, or do nothing and create a riot. You were willing to do it for the good of SK and I believe you, and find it very commendable. There are also all kinds of players in SK, some have experienced hardship previously, and have become hardened in emotions -- try not to take it to heart, it probably isn't personal.


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