Shattered Kingdoms

No, Woognit did not want to move Ayamao's Capital. Woognit actually didn't think Ayamao had a Capital, since it was a loose federation. Woognit got an alliance for Grahme and Elisair out of the Talons after they declared a (game-code) truce on Ayamao when they were ending a hundred-year alliance with Sith but not ending it with Grahme and Elisair.

But, no, Woognit never said anything about wanting to move a Capital Woognit did not believe existed.

your complaints are that imenant said, I think you will fail but give it your best try anyway and I will help you.

You can not deny that imenant always encourged you to do your best, and wanted you in the guardians. He constantly asked you to mend fences. Yeah, he said he thought you would fail, but he always pushed you to try and offered his help.

I actually thought Woognit wanted to move the capitol to Elisiar

New rule! Every time someone posts on Imenant's afterlife thread, they have to vote!

Oh, and for the record, Woognit heard from a couple sources that Thalion threw Imenant out and Imenant was looking for Woognit so Imenant could get back in. And Woognit put Imenant back in specifically because of that. A couple years later, Woognit "poofed".

And that is why you found yourself in two cab/tribs at the same time. Had I OOCly known you had moved on, I would have OOCly decided not to put Imenant back in and cause you the trouble you had there.

That's not a problem man. I just don't want people to think I joined one faction while I was in another. When I did find out about it, I Prayed to get the situation fixed. I think I handled that situation the best way possible .

I believe you made that proposition when Imenant declared his fealty to Woognit. But Woognit rebuffed Imenant on that occasion. Perhaps your anti-Thalion and pro-Woognit stance caused you to think your idea would go over well with either Woognit or me, not sure (since I immerse myself in my characters), but it never entered Woognit's mind. And I could not see that working out all that well. See: sprite culture and sunspark for very clear reasons why I did not see that idea working out in the least. And remember, I worked very hard to make Woognit an old-school, by-the-books sprite, even to the point of always being annoying to me.

So, no, I believe you projected onto me your wishes, considering the situation at hand at the time.

It could be possible. I should state that i believed I would of got shot down instantly both IC and OOC, and that Zaid as much of a chance to kill Dabi and bring back Zynor as imenant did moving the capitol to Tethos. I do not mind fighting windmills, or chasing rainbows. This is a damn game. I believe setting unattainable goals helps keep your RP moving along even during the down times.

Let me state for the record, Meztiso (and I am technically one of them, depending on the definition), that I am glad I got to spend time RPing with you finally, after all that time spent hearing about your evil side and how you got props from various people.

I tried to ferret out Imenant's alignment with a lot of questions. And by your answers, I deemed Imenant to be scrupulous, which OOCly affected Woognit's interaction with Imenant. Somehow, apparently, the wires got crossed, otherwise events very well could have turned out differently on several occasions.

But playing alongside you was, overall, a positive experience for me.

You did handle it the best way possible. I believed you completely when you prayed about it. I knew that Woognit had deleted and I assumed that sometime before deleting he must have acted to reverse Thalion's action against Imenant. That's why, even though official policy is very strict, I was very appreciative of your prompt prayer and acted to assist you.

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Meztiso, I find this entire thread very disappointing. As an admin who worked with you, who supported you, who took time to roleplay with you actively, and who rewarded you for your out-of-the-box thinking & roleplay, your choice to come to the afterlife thread and portray everything the way you did felt very much like a betrayal of the time and faith that I personally put into your character and the player behind him. You did not recognize the fair support given to your character by the immstaff but made presumptuous accusations of favoritism when the exact same support & considerations were given to another character.

You did not need to be given OOC notification about what was happening concurrently with other characters while you were playing your character. My opinion of Imenant immediately jumped high up when you chose to leave the new flavor-of-the-day-cabal (no offense to you Trag!), and to go back to one that was empty. I respect and admire the players who are willing to stick it out with an empty cabal and try to make things flourish again. Because of this high opinion of your character, I spent a lot of time watching your roleplay, to look for opportunities to support and reward it. That is how I happened to be present to jump into Davynn that day to interact with you in Sith'a'niel. There was a lot of justified in-character antagonism directed against your character that day, and unbeknownst to you maybe there was even a character involved who was -trying- to stir up trouble for entirely in-character reasons. I tried to maintain a positive interaction with you, to give you in-character reasons why what you wanted couldn't happen the way you wanted it to, while still leaving open an avenue for you to pursue that roleplay. I rewarded you for that roleplay.

This high opinion is also how I happened to be watching and overhear you complaining OOC that you did not enjoy your character's roleplay because you felt stuck having to play your racist roleplay, that you wanted this other character to be given a leader flag, and that you wanted to delete Imanent soon after roleplaying his breakdown. This is what is most baffling to me of all. I helped get this other character back into the tribunal exactly the same as how I helped your character to stay in the tribunal, and I helped get this other character leader-flagged exactly in the same spirit as how your character got leader-flagged. YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED, and even though you complain about OOC favoritism from imms, of the characters involved, it was -YOU- who had received the most favorable imm-intervention.

When I intervened on the night that you deleted, I was trying to find a way to keep you both in the tribunal, I was looking very specifically for a way to AVOID either of you being favored one way or the other, and that is why I stressed persistently an in-character game support for BOTH of you. Although what -YOU- demanded was for one of you to be the absolute leader over the other, what -I- offered was a compromise, making both of you equal in power, with divided responsibilities. What I was offering was a way out of your own self-described racist roleplay that you yourself said you were not enjoying, and I kept it all in-game, in-character. -You- couldn't keep it IC, you chose not to roleplay it out.

You come here and cry about OOC bias and imm favoritism when it is simply a flat out lie. You want the immstaff to care that this has left a bad taste in your mouth so now you're going to carry a chip on your shoulder? Well frankly, after wasting my time helping you out, supporting you, trying to encourage you, and getting back no thanks but just false accusations of mistreatment, I really don't care anymore if you're upset.
Take 2 minutes right this moment and ask yourself what kind of bull$h!t the immstaff deals with on a regular basis that leaves a bad taste in our mouths.


[EDIT: I misspoke from frustration. I do care. But I accept that no amount of reasoning will help you see the other side of the issue and that if you want to be upset about it, you will be. It's your choice. I, however, will not bear that burden, because I know that I treated you both reasonably, fairly, and with good intent.]