Shattered Kingdoms

Alright so after about 10 hours of enchanting (my whole suit and a few items for others) I have come to the decision that faded items should remain faded. My reasoning for this is fading gives you the opportunity to make "items" what you want. (rings, robes, necklaces, and even armor) For instance I had a robe with enchants I didn't want, I faded it and then made it into something awesome. There are also a lot of really good items in the game that come with unsavory enchantments and could use a fading. For warriors well, a warrior isn't going to want "magic protection" they're going to want "armor protection" so if you come across a adamantite suit of all greater magical protection (like Karnak's) you're going to want to fade it and slap some armor protection on it.

All in all, enchanting is so easy now a fade and re-enchant is easily doable and in many cases you will want a fade.

Also keep in mind if something comes with greater ap or mp, additional enchants of the same type won't stack with it.

Just to add some examples of what I'm trying to say.

With fading you can turn this:



Into this:

You're mistaken. Melee needs magical protection and for karnaks suit you'd just want to toss some AP ontop of that MP.

Fading karnaks suit kinda makes it useless, seeing as only innate enchants stack.

I was mistaken about innate enchants stacking with armor, they don't stack with items, though.

Why would a melee want magical protection over armor protection which absorbs physical damage?





I personally would want a healthy balance of both.

Terrus, keep in mind that this item is, for all intents and purposes on a decently enchanted kit, just a +5 will container. Because you should have another item that is +4 or +5 fort, which means it will supersede this one. Had you not faded it, it could be a +5 will, +2 cha, +2 me container. Now if you'd gotten it up to +5will, +4 fort, then you could avoid having to use another item for fortitude and that'd be worth it.

There is very little reason to want to fade anything other than 1) you want to get rid of innate MR, or 2) you want to fade a "holy" item. And for point 1, you should just find a different item like 99% of the time.

I'm starting to get it, hold crap this is going to make it very difficult to get any decent willpower and fortitude enchants.

It REQUIRES that you find armor that has will/fort on it. And there isn't enough of that in the game to go around, particularly for cloth armor characters.

Looks like maxxing wis, con, and dex (naturally or through enchants) is going to be very important now.

Not necessarily. Think about this this way. You have 7 "item" slots, or 8 if you want to hold something like a scarf or whatever in your hand. You'll need to use one each of these slots for reflex, fortitude, and willpower. That still leave four slots open. You can use those four slots for stats, for me, for hp, for pe (laugh) ... and that's about it. So you do have room for (and in fact should LEAVE room for) some stat enchants.

jhorleb, I think he is saying it because it will be very hard to get to the magical 20 for will/fort/ref that you will need to have those stats maxxed to make up for the lack of saves.