Shattered Kingdoms

You're right. Necromancers never have any allies to enchant for them, open gates, PK with them, travel with them to the outer planes to gank people, brew spirit aura vials for them, break them out of jail, resurrect them, recharge their wands, scribe them scrolls, or anything else. Again, what was I thinking?


Maybe I will play one later, after they have been appropriately balanced. When it would actually be fun to be one.

Explain the Crucible, or the many logs where MCers team with them all the time. Darkies are darkies. True, they have been at war with each other before, but that's not very often. I can't think of any darkies that wouldn't help a necro because they are a necro.

Psh. Whatevs. Urvrybody hates necros and never, ever, evaaaar works with them 'cause they're all...necroy.

Yeah, sorry. Necros have friends.

I have a new idea. If reducing animate dead to sane levels is so unpalatable, we could just add something somewhere else in the game to balance necromancers out. I recall hearing way back when that the balance to having an evil-only class (necromaners) was to have a good-only race (griffons). How about we just give griffons 50 attacks/round, interdiction, and maybe boost their HP to be equivalent to the total HP that 10 GM barbarians wraiths have. Do you think that would be a good idea? Maybe to offset that hellfire and evil holy words would do extra damage to them. That seems balanced, right?

Styles is starting to sound like Syn, and her goal with her character is to get necros wimped because she's having a fit about Edoras killing her last couple characters.

Edit :

Griffons are the exact opposite of necromancers, in that necros take intensive prep and griffons take none. This is even more true now with MR barbs.

I have to agree with Nightwing, I'd like to see how these people would do with a necro. Nobody's even pointed out yet that to steamroll CRS guardians and PvE, you have to put in the prep to find or enchant weapons to level 40+ or the NPCs will be "unaffected". Or the countless no-magic rooms in high end PvE.

Having played a sorceror before, you can solo the Wastelands and Radi Kenga's with that class. Probably much easier than a necro can due to ethereal + disbanding your group so nothing attacks your charm except the things you want to kill. You can also aggro NPC gank people doing PvE with a sorceror.

I find it hilarious that people are taking seriously a person who created an account solely to whine about necros. Expecting to gain any kind of ground in that is rather amusing.

I've played a lot of characters, and it's been years IRL since I've actually died to a necro on any of them, and I've gone 1v1 against them quite a fair number of times and even killed the necro on some of those.

I'm just enjoying the attention. I'm glad Alaric made such an impression on Styles. I probably shouldn't have deleted him, but leadership becomes so hard after a while and I didn't leave the char much room to step down gracefully. In case you're wondering, with the help of a gate to the spire to save time wandering out, Alaric at his peak had no problem soloing his way to the wastelands and in addition used 0 consumables that he could not replace himself in the process.

I do wish I'd taken him at his prime against Surrit. I bet with powerful haste, gm ig/armor/shield, high lvl SA + sanc, and lolzerk, along with his enchants and 50+ unbuffed MP, that it would've been close.

Does it matter who I am if I'm right? Not one person in this thread has come out strong against ratcheting animate down to a sensible level. Even all of the necromancer advocates acknowledge it would be fine to do so, that it would not make necromancers underpowered or in any way be a problem. So here you are, instead, taking up the ad hominem mantle instead of making any cogent points.


Cool story, bro.

Excellent point. Let's just give them 25 attacks then. That evens things out.


The necromancer that accomplished this is, what, a week old? I can't imagine the insane amount of preparation that went into that. Also, a lot of no-magic rooms probably wouldn't exist if builders weren't trying to prevent their areas from getting steamrolled by NPCs.


This is just false. It's not easier for the sorcerer, and etherealform is not exactly hard for a necromancer to manage.