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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:43 pm 
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I'm not sure that bards necessarily need a buff like this, and even if a rogue could trip while prone, they're still toast more often than not, because chances are they're getting hit. I know that's not always the case, but it seems to be most of the time.

But swashies? Yes please.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:56 pm 
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MsPooperTrooper wrote:
I'm not sure that bards necessarily need a buff like this, and even if a rogue could trip while prone, they're still toast more often than not, because chances are they're getting hit. I know that's not always the case, but it seems to be most of the time.

But swashies? Yes please.


I don't see giving adventuring classes a way to escape bash spam is a bad thing. This would weaken mercs because they'd lose trip, bards, rogues and swashies could escape bash locks, especially swashies because they have to be front row. It's just a bone to other classes to help them escape the infamous bashbashbashbashbash.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:24 pm 
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MsPooperTrooper wrote:
I'm not sure that bards necessarily need a buff like this, and even if a rogue could trip while prone, they're still toast more often than not, because chances are they're getting hit. I know that's not always the case, but it seems to be most of the time.

But swashies? Yes please.


I don't see giving adventuring classes a way to escape bash spam is a bad thing. This would weaken mercs because they'd lose trip, bards, rogues and swashies could escape bash locks, especially swashies because they have to be front row. It's just a bone to other classes to help them escape the infamous bashbashbashbashbash.


If you want to escape bash lock it's simple, o all rescue.

I don't like this idea and I would have to say no.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:16 pm 
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I have!


My question was posed to Galactus, who thinks bows should be a close-range/melee weapon.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:17 pm 
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mundufisen wrote:
If you want to escape bash lock it's simple, o all rescue.

I don't like this idea and I would have to say no.


Must I remind you that 'o all rescue' completely screws over a swashie's ability to defend himself?


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:31 pm 
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o all rescue is not used as a means to defend yourself. It's used as a way to get the heck out of dodge when you're bash-locked and need to recall.

Swashies, in particular, should have plenty of charisma which will allow them to time their o all rescue so that once they regain their footing they'll have plenty of time to recall.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:12 pm 
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I'll agree that swashies being able to trip while prone may not be the solution for them. I was really hoping to find useful solutions (or rather, suggestions) to help the class out.

Is the class truly under powered in relation to other warrior classes?

Is there a passive ability that would help them out you can think of?

Is there an active ability that would help them out you can think of?

I like the discussion. Keep it up.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:13 pm 
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I would still like to see scouts being able to shoot a bow prone, as long as they are behind a pet, that'd be awesome, and a swashy being able to trip while prone would be kind of nice, though most professional bashers come flying, though I don't know how bad the fly debuff to accuracy is.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:19 pm 
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Is the class truly under powered in relation to other warrior classes?


Oh, goodness yes. They're the only warrior class that has light armor restrictions. They have very limited utility in battle, and are completely useless in PvE.

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Is there a passive ability that would help them out you can think of?


Please, for the love of everything, no more passive skills. They are boring as hades to play as it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Trip While Prone
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:23 pm 
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Opey wrote:
I'll agree that swashies being able to trip while prone may not be the solution for them. I was really hoping to find useful solutions (or rather, suggestions) to help the class out.

Is the class truly under powered in relation to other warrior classes?

Is there a passive ability that would help them out you can think of?

Is there an active ability that would help them out you can think of?

I like the discussion. Keep it up.


Let's see, I can think of two passive abilities that could help them become more on par with merc/barbar
1. a passive skill that let them get both benefits of mood aggressive and defensive, increasing their damage output along with their survivability.
2. a passive skill that helps them negate damage, swashbucklers are a light class melee fighter who are suppose to go toe to toe with mercs and barbar's but both these classes are heavy armored, get more attacks, have ways to increase their damage and can benefit from the massive weapon buff. now then a swashbuckler is suppose to be the agile fighter, but mercs get every skill a swsahbuckler gets to make them more tanky, besides the extra chance to parry, but mercs have shields. It would be nice if being the agile fighters they are, they moved with the attack thus making it cause less damage even by a minor percentage.
now then for active abilities there's really only one that comes to mind and that is
Lunge: can be used to open a fight with or during combat to lunge suddenly at the target with both weapons. can be parried/dodged but hard to do so.


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