MR Barb gets invis

Opey · **Posted:** Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:50 pm

Code:

roup: Hoch's Party
(F1)  [---------------]    (F2)  [         Baltus]    (F3)  [        someone]
(M1)  [---------------]    (M2)  [        someone]    (M3)  [        someone]
(B1)  [---------------]    (B2)  [        someone]    (B3)  [        someone]
Characters                 Rank    Pos  Here  Follow  Prone    HP    ME    PE  
Hoch                       Leader  M2   Yes   No      No     100%  100%  100%
Someone                    Member  M3   Yes   Yes     No     100%  100%  100%
Someone                    Member  B2   Yes   Yes     No     100%   47%  100%
Baltus                     Member  F2   Yes   No      No     100%  100%  100%
Someone                    Member  B3   Yes   Yes     No     100%   64%  100%
Someone                    Member  F3   Yes   No      No     100%  100%  100%
Someone                    Member  M2   Yes   Yes     No     100%    0%  100%

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 o [Affects] Hoch - Commander of Morea, Righteous Fury                       o
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 o Affect: 'aura of negation'                                                o
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So, my spirit rider became invis, so I was invis. I'm really not sure what to do about this. Hoch (as an MR barbarian) should not be really going invis, but certainly people who are mounted and cast invis on themselves, or camo, or hide should all be considered "hidden" through their respective means. However, I just feel twinkish being able to go invis like this.

It isn't exactly a bug (because I didn't actually gain the invis spell affect)... but it still seems a bit fishy.

Thoughts?

Tragonis · **Posted:** Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:02 pm

You are not really invis and can still be targetted.

Opey · **Posted:** Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:13 pm

I had some people tell me they couldn't see me. I'm not sure if I actually was invis, they just seemed to to think I was. It was a confusing time for us all.

Maybe it is nothing.

patrisaurus · **Posted:** Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:01 pm

It's a display oversight I think, good on you for bringing it up.

Mounts (PC and NPC) are removed from the lines displayed in the room, probably so as to avoid spam, so that you see:

Rider is here, riding on Hoch.

instead of

Rider is here, riding on Hoch.
Hoch is here, mounted by Rider.

Which is good except in this instance.

NativeWolf · **Joined:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:12 am **Posts:** 449

Quote:

(Invis) A spirit rider is here flying on Hoch.

ObjectivistActivist · **Posted:** Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:49 am

If you can detect invis you can see both. If you can't detect invis you can see neither, but if you know by some other means that the mount is there you can target.

Opey · **Posted:** Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:43 am

ObjectivistActivist wrote:

If you can detect invis you can see both. If you can't detect invis you can see neither, but if you know by some other means that the mount is there you can target.

That is very interesting. If am understanding you correctly, you are saying that someone can still, for example, "bash hoch" even though they cannot actually see my character there (if they don't have detect invis).

Obviously, if they do have detect invis both my rider and my character are visible.

I never knew any of that. At any rate, I don't feel like it is a good idea to have MR barbarians being capable of this time of invisibility, but I really don't have a solution.

Rodwen · **Joined:** Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:22 pm **Posts:** 1648

I don't know how I feel about this. I could see it going one of two ways. When a character is invisible, everything that is on them becomes invisible, too. The spell isn't on their breastplate, but it is not able to be seen, presumably because the one with the invisible spell is touching it. With this in mind, you could say that the mount being invisible makes sense, and the fact that they can still target you could be the bug.

On the other hand, you could say only the one character should be invisible, so you going invisible is the bug.

It's a pretty close call, but I'm leaning towards both being invis, so if a vote was to be instated, I'd choose that one.

Ajon · **Joined:** Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:25 pm **Posts:** 124

I dont see it as that close. Most likely a bug. It is likely not intended to work that way and was the result of the way the code handled riders. Even if they cannot see you in the room can they target you such as "poke hoch" or "kill hoch"?

Dulrik · **Posted:** Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:23 am

Sounds like a display bug that I will put on the bug fix list.

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