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 Post subject: Re: skill to add for barbarian and shaman
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:02 am 
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Le Petit Prince wrote:
An MR barbarian would rip my hellion in half if I tried spamming hellfire on him

If I were playing an MR barbarian, I would rip your hellion in half. I would probably then jloot you for thinking you ever stood a chance against the combined power of aura of negation and bash.

Barbs don't need buffs.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:24 am 
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mithrandir131 wrote:
alvarro wrote:
Give swashbucklers rift instead.

I'm strangely comfortable with this.

As long as they get meditation.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:12 pm 
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Baldric wrote:
Le Petit Prince wrote:
An MR barbarian would rip my hellion in half if I tried spamming hellfire on him

If I were playing an MR barbarian, I would rip your hellion in half. I would probably then jloot you for thinking you ever stood a chance against the combined power of aura of negation and bash.

Barbs don't need buffs.


Joke's on you, I'm wearing unenchanted leather.

Regular barbs are great. MR barbs are like "wait, this is a warrior class?"


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 Post subject: Re: skill to add for barbarian and shaman
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:16 pm 
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MR barb should be manhandling you in 1v1. All your buffs will drop and your dominate will get dispelled. Then you get bashed and die.

MR barbs don't belong on the front rank in group pvp. Unless they are in hammer of light. Or if they are a partial MR build. That's reasonable considering all that they gain from training MR.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:04 pm 
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I'll take your word for it and wait for someone to show it to me firsthand. The PvP bit, I mean.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:44 pm 
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The only saving grace that a hellion has against an MR barb is a guard NPC. Other than that he has to rely on the MR barb being bad.


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I haven't been talking at all about a 1v1; that's a horrible measure of a class's worth. I'm talking about an MR barb's value to a group, which I have never observed to be significant in my personal experience or in logs I have seen.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:18 pm 
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Edoras wrote:
The only saving grace that a hellion has against an MR barb is a guard NPC. Other than that he has to rely on the MR barb being bad.


Or a critical cleave, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's considered magical and therefore the MR barb would absorb it.

As for this idea, lol wtf. Stop proposing buffs to some of the most ridiculously spoiled classes in the game. If anything, barbarians need wimps.

There's another dual wielding warrior class that is far more deserving of buffs than the barbarian class. A class that already gets ridiculous stuff.


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Would turning auto assist off, ordering a guard to engage then following up with a cleave work? Or would he still be able to counter?


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 Post subject: Re: skill to add for barbarian and shaman
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:36 pm 
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Yeah that works. You also can't counter someone you can't reach, so theoretically you can start a fight with a cleaving reaching weapon as long as you are certain the barbarian isn't using a reaching weapon. Not a good idea in PvP though.


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