Shattered Kingdoms

Where Roleplay and Tactics Collide
VOTE NOW!
It is currently Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:35 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 95 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:24 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:50 pm
Posts: 3502
Location: Canada
SK Character: Karsh
Mythrilshotgun wrote:
NAME: Altruistic

A follower of the spirit of the law, if not always the letter. For them, they believe the good nature of their fellow mortal is more important than the legality, but try to hold both to high regards. The path of balance between doing what is just and what is right can be difficult at times, and while they may at times try to subvert the laws set in place, for a good cause, they uphold the ideals those laws are founded on, and will defend them when egregiously offended.

Ex: An altruistic character may give their word for a truce, and while someone may point out a loophole for the altruistic character to act, they abstain based on the intent of their words, rather than the wording.


Terrible name for what you describe, and what you describe is essentially Scrup re-worded.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:27 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm
Posts: 149
jreid_1985 wrote:
so pmuch chaotic good?


Chaotic Good: Aka, Robin Hood, openly flouts the law of the land, acting as brigands for the weak. The idea behind the Altruistic are more like... Good private investigators. They may bend the rules a bit, get the information they need to bring the law on the villain, but they'll rarely openly act against it. The laws are not all encompassing, and the Altruistic realize this, but they are necessary, and will uphold them when they can, not just when convenient.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:28 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm
Posts: 149
Eh, I realize it all reads pretty much like scrupulous, but I'm at least offering up ideas. I'm not going to pretend what I'm writing up is what will go up to the Shattered Kingdoms, but I'm hoping to get the ball rolling. Refute my points, by all means, and hopefully build on your own rebuttals and come up with something better!

Edit: Yes, it's a terrible name for it, but this is entirely off the cusp, and I picked a goody two-shoe word for it. I'm terrible with names.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:33 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:50 pm
Posts: 3502
Location: Canada
SK Character: Karsh
Well, the rebuttal is pretty simple. You didn't describe anything that would be considered inherently Altruistic, and therefore Altruist isn't an appropriate title for the alignment. Moreover, there's no sense in adding a third good alignment that already falls within the bounds of one of the existing two good alignments. If there's no feasible or reasonable way to include a third good alignment that is distinct from the already-extant good alignments, there's no reason to add a third alignment just for the sake of having one.

EDIT: On the subject of the title of the alignment again, SK already defines "good" as including heavy elements of altruism, and therefore an alignment specifically devoted to such is again already covered by the existing alignments.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:44 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm
Posts: 149
Well, I did edit my original post with a 'Vigilante' style that is more Chaotic good, and actually feels more cohesive to me, but again, I urge y'all to write -something- up. I accept that the original idea isn't the best, never claimed it was, but the topic -is- a third good alignment, and I'm just throwing macaroni to a wall. Don't take the suggestions too seriously, come up with your own.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:47 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:50 pm
Posts: 3502
Location: Canada
SK Character: Karsh
That's kind of why I said in my original post in this thread that I think the good alignments we already have cover the full spectrum of qualities that could be considered "good" in terms of SK. I really don't think there's a valid third good alignment description that can be arrived at, no matter how much macaroni you throw at a wall. Basically, I'm saying that my idea is "It ain't broke, no need to fix it" and am arguing from that standpoint.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:48 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:50 pm
Posts: 3502
Location: Canada
SK Character: Karsh
Mythrilshotgun wrote:
Edit: In writing this edit, I came up with another.

Vigilante

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. This is the only law that binds these adventures. Suffering to answer suffering is the key phrase to these adventurers. They will still act in kindness, promoting and sharing in the generosity of others. They are the self-righteous seeking to right Pyrathia, working to defend the meek, and bring down its ails through any means at their disposal, strictly lawful or not.


This also is basically just a different way to describe the range provided by Scrup.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:55 pm 
Offline
Implementor

Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:00 pm
Posts: 8220
Location: Redwood City, California
Is there really no good character to occupy the place between the extremes of Superman and Robin Hood? I think there is, but it would probably necessitate a bit of rewriting for scrupulous. I think the boundary of scrupulous was pushed out because there was otherwise no middle ground.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:59 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:23 am
Posts: 1009
Location: Gulf Breeze
Its not a bad idea. Altruistic is closer to his description than other alignments. Like an aberrant person being honorable when the actual meaning is somewhere along the lines of a deviant. Doesn't have to be perfect.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: A third good alignment?
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:04 pm 
Offline
Mortal

Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:50 pm
Posts: 3502
Location: Canada
SK Character: Karsh
Dulrik wrote:
Is there really no good character to occupy the place between the extremes of Superman and Robin Hood? I think there is, but it would probably necessitate a bit of rewriting for scrupulous. I think the boundary of scrupulous was pushed out because there was otherwise no middle ground.


I don't really think there is a valid middle ground between the two. One does good things and respects law whenever possible, one does good things and respects law when it doesn't get in the way of doing good things. That's really the only difference between the two good alignments in SK and in a broader sense between the different types of "good" in the general context as described by SK.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 95 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 67 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group