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 Post subject: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:25 am 
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I think the ability to order guards should be changed from one's charisma level to one's level. Charisma is already factored in when considering lag and that's fine. What I can't see is a guard not listening to the leader of their faction just because he's not charismatic.


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 Post subject: Re: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:32 am 
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It's based on level and charisma already. You're also not technically the leader of a tribunal, but instead a steward of such. If Queen Serena walked up to some guy that Captain Obvious can't order, that guy'd listen to Serena. Leadership should require the ability to communicate and interact with others effectively, both mechanically (as it is now) and RP-wise.


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 Post subject: Re: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 3:04 pm 
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I was using a leader as an example but yes, if you have leadership you should be able to eventually control every law NPC as you progress to level 50.


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 Post subject: Re: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 3:05 pm 
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drexalv wrote:
I was using a leader as an example but yes, if you have leadership you should be able to eventually control every law NPC as you progress to level 50.


Uh, no. Again, CHA is not just a number. It's meant to literally be a representation of how persuasive/attractive you can make your commands and arguments.


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 Post subject: Re: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 3:37 pm 
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ObjectivistActivist wrote:
drexalv wrote:
I was using a leader as an example but yes, if you have leadership you should be able to eventually control every law NPC as you progress to level 50.


Uh, no. Again, CHA is not just a number. It's meant to literally be a representation of how persuasive/attractive you can make your commands and arguments.


Oh, ok. Then that is what I disagree with. It's military. Rank is all that matters not if you're a likable guy and once you have leadership you have rank imo. Once you reach 50 all should be open to you regardless of your Cha. Cha penalties will follow with lag times.


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 Post subject: Re: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 4:45 pm 
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I wouldn't be opposed to this idea, but I doubt they would go for it. If you want to order tribunal guards with minimal charisma, try guardians or hand.


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 Post subject: Re: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 5:53 pm 
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drexalv wrote:
once you have leadership you have rank imo.


And, once again, no. The title of the skill doesn't even support your theory. It's a skill of acting like a leader and persuading other guards to do what you're leading them to do. If you can't convince them, you don't get to lead them.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 8:30 pm 
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ObjectivistActivist wrote:
drexalv wrote:
once you have leadership you have rank imo.


And, once again, no. The title of the skill doesn't even support your theory. It's a skill of acting like a leader and persuading other guards to do what you're leading them to do. If you can't convince them, you don't get to lead them.


And again, it's my opinion. You stated yours to which I disagree.


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 Post subject: Re: Tribunal Guards
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 8:48 pm 
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How about following me into battle recruit?

Sorry sir. I know you're my commanding officer, but you lack the proper social skillz and ur kinda fugly so uh.. defend the town without me.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:09 am 
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jreid_1985 wrote:
How about following me into battle recruit?

Sorry sir. I know you're my commanding officer, but you lack the proper social skillz and ur kinda fugly so uh.. defend the town without me.


Picture the guy who's like 'Hey, come with me on a suicide mission', vs the William Wallace 'They may take our lives, but they'll never take... our freedom' etc, that's how I picture it. One is... well... a heck of a lot more likely to get people to get behind you and line up to let you possibly end their lives.


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