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Should shamans be able to bind spirits to their dolls?
Yes 58%  58%  [ 11 ]
No, the ability to limit resurrection penalties should be exclusively for priests. 21%  21%  [ 4 ]
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 Post subject: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:41 am 
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This is an old argument, but I think it would be great if Shamans were able to have a high level spell that allowed them to resurrect people through a spirit doll and not have the experience penalty. I think it is enough of a requirement that the Shaman actually make a spirit doll of the person that it would not fully intrude on Priest being the primary class to seek when dead, but it opens up the options for gameplay for those who want to be able to get others back in the game after death without a major penalty (they'd still get Spirit disorientation, of course).


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:52 pm 
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Interesting. Would cut both ways too. If your shaman is pkd the enemy now has a doll of all your homies.


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:37 pm 
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I don't like it.

Why?

People already talk about how dying is nothing to reequipping (it's come up more than once from someone else in my limited time here), so I don't see how giving MORE classes the ability to resurrect with few to no penalties is something which will do anything but make that worse.

I do think shamans should get herbalism because ACTUAL shamanism relies heavily on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:06 pm 
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Shamans shouldn't get herbalism. I have said in the past they should get a poultice skill which removes the bad effects of herbs, or even a distill skill to make what herbs have slightly more potent.


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:05 pm 
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I have not played in a while ... but aren't shamans still an overpowered class?


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:06 pm 
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Its a good idea that makes having dolls useful again even without having a voodoo cannon build.


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:11 pm 
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If you were to modifiy this, requiring a corpse, a spirit doll, but no experience penalty, I think it would be better.

That said I think it would be good if we generally were to do away with the raise dead/breath of life exp penalty, and make it a viable everyday means to bring someone from the dead. Just a thought.


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:49 pm 
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Having a doll and a corpse is a bit much. Corpses dont always leave limbs. Meaning you gotta stock pile them. With MR and barbarians and the help file meaning they should be buddy buddy and if a barbarian dosent like magic he goes MR his shaman friend should still be able to help him out.

Personally i think resurrection is for priests. I would rather the same name spirit bind but its so you can get a doll of XXX and cast spirit bind XXX and you can ignore the MR the other char has built. You can make it like Spirit aura but has to stack with it. This plays into voodoo and healing buffing everything a shaman can cast but not really staffs and brew so it isnt that strong.


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 Post subject: Re: Shaman Spirit bind
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:07 am 
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How about a spirit bind in a different sense? How about a way to bind someone's ghost to a doll? From there they could wander like if they were alive, just with set doll physical attributes. From doll they do stuff like teach skills and spells. This would also give people stuff to mess around with after they die from age. I think the binding would be a held spell. Just a light one.


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