Shattered Kingdoms

Lumiere isn't interested in the enforcement or lack of enforcement of modern-day slang in the game. That is just the vehicle he is using to snipe at Meissa. The Paul Harvey version: everything he has posted lately is sour grapes due to how things played out for Lumiere in the game. He blames Grep and Meissa rather than himself.

I'm actually upset that I don't catch any of the blame for how Lumiere turned out.

The hammer of justice will never be able to whack every mole on its head. There is no system where universal enforcement is claimed in the world at large, except by deceptive people. I'm not sure anyone here has claimed the same. As the rules manager I will tell you directly we cannot whack every mole on its head, and by that definition there is a baseline unfairness built into our enforcement system. It's a fact that cannot be glossed over nor is it one I will hide from.

I also, myself, will not curse someone for profanity itself just for its existence. There have been tasteful examples of bad words that I have not cursed that I've witnessed personally, and I have not enforced action based on a few reports - one prominent of late in my mind though never reached the public was actually one of Dakken's.

Poor language and modern colloquialism is one of those few things that cannot ever be fit within a rigid framework, and trying to fully flesh that framework for the playerbase would lead to nothing but a mile-long example of what has been cursed for. It's one of those things where you can't define it, but you know it when you see it (with the reasonable qualification that English is your first language, and I keep that in mind when dealing with people). I will post my side (redacting personal information about the correspondence so it can be taken as a public statement) of a conversation I had over a report a few months ago to better flesh out my stance.



That being said, that rule of "trying to explain why things are allowed in the game" doesn't always work and punishment ends up needing meted out. If you have honest, constructive alternatives to how we can help set appropriate expectations of what will and won't be punished within the game's language rules, I am all ears for alternatives. Language rules, just like poor RP, are unfortunately some of the more subjective things to enforce but also require enforcement. It is a difficult line to walk and we're not opposed to suggestions on the matter, it's just that enforcement is never a sexy topic to talk about so suggestions rarely come to light.

I'm sorry it took so long for me to jump in and resurrect/rehash what seemed to be a falling topic - but these are the breaks and I felt it warranted this response.

Fine-

For every seven moles, I doubt you manage to even whack one of them on the head.

A major instrument behind this is the vehicles by which 'bad behavior' complaints do and do not reach your attention.

Better monitoring of prayer and notes might bring more to your attention than just waiting for someone to get from the MUD to emailing you.

I was going to put this in favorite quotes, but I cannot find it.

Do you have evidence that the imms ignore prayers or are you just speculating? Maybe that evidence would've been useful for your argument.

There's an electric guitar in the game, just saying.

It is, by the way, awesome. There's nothing wrong with being anachronistic creatively.
Further, if anyone here thinks the usage of certain curse words is anachronistic, a bit of research will show you just how ancient certain curses are.

It is in fact far more anachronistic to have a medieval world where cussing is uncommon. Look to expressions like 'not worth a rat's [REDACTED]' and you'll find they originated in rome, if not before that.

Further, if you pick up a good, well-known fantasy novel these days chances are you'll run into foul language. Creative foul language, but foul language nonetheless.

To claim that people who cuss and swear IC are uncreative for it is a case by case scenario. Some may be, others go out of their way to make it interesting.

TLDR:
If you want to prohibit cussing in-game, base it on a rule that says that cussing is forbidden in this game. Do not mistake any and all cussing for poor roleplay or being uncreative, because it fits any fantasy setting just fine RP-wise.