Shattered Kingdoms

That change was also made as part of yesterday's monthly update. I think a few people are just heavily publicizing their consumables loss and the other tweaks have not yet been noticed due to that.

This is your game and ultimately your choice on how you approach updates, and although I cant speak for everyone, I do enjoy a bit of transparency. I know you post updates in announcements from time to time, but I have noticed in the past a few ninja changes and in my personal opinion, I dont feel players enjoy getting blindsided. I feel that the biggest issue in regards to hoarding was that there were a select few players that log hours at the end of the month and arent seen again until 30 days later.

What is hard for me to understand is that because I had a few limited vials more that the code allowed, I lose all my weapons? I had two extra weapons, no extra armor, and I lose everything, plus 2/3 of my consumables? It just seems harsh. Not to mention, if I had known, I would have destroyed the vials to keep my weapons. But I don't understand why I was hit at all when I logged at least 60 hours last month, probably many more.

It's worth repeating....the players that are complaining about this are all mainstays on the who list. The dehoarding feature needs to be geared around time played MUCH more than items carried. It doesn't bother me ONE bit if someone who logs on every day carries around an entire bag of unique stuff. Hoarding isn't carrying a lot of stuff, it's taking stuff and not logging that char in therefore rendering the stuff itself unavailable. Why is it a good idea, at all, that a character who's on the who list almost every day, for long periods of time, can't carry whatever they want? If anybody wants the stuff that char has, go get it! Especially with the low player counts, people need much more stuff for utility than they might if there were one of every class of both auras on all the time. All we want, as players, is for people to not be able to log in, grab stuff that's useful to those of us who play a lot, and never log back in and use it. We don't care if people who play all the time have all sorts of stuff.

It's worth repeating....the de-hoard of consumables will be toned down for next month.

That's reasonable and logical. Just for clarification, I don't think we ever implement anything in an effort to "ninja change" anything. Typically, code changes are a slow process that trickle in, sometimes one at a time, sometimes small batches. Rather than post an update at every code change, we generally wait and then post an Announcement that covers a number of changes at once. Occasionally when small things are tweaked, they won't find their way to an announcement, because they're so small or deal with administrative commands, but every now and then a small tweak has a larger impact than anticipated, and just about every time that happens, it will be noticed by players, a thread like this appears, and we can address it afterward. Hate for anybody to feel blindsided, but when it happens, this is usually why.

Will armor/weapons still be lumped in the same category as consumables? It was mentioned previously that 6 was the cap before. Any chance you can share what the cap was raised to?

Also, its hard to tell which items are subject to the hoard code since identify can only tell you so much. The difficulty comes into play with borderline items that may or may not be level 40. Is there any way we can code in a way to determine which items may be dehoarded? A change in color to the identify text or something?

I enjoyed this purge since I was able to see some items that had been hoarded up for ages. With some tweaking still optional, I think it was in the right direction. If you’re active and got hit it sucks but it was worth it to get some items circulating.

The 6 item cap that you mentioned applies to logout thieves. I have not changed that code so it should still be the same as before.

Generally speaking: Only an item that is capable of being hoarded (because it is limited) can be targeted by the monthly update.

I haven't heard any stories so far about months-long inactive characters attempting to login this month and whether or not they lost their gear. They should now have lost a lot more. I know exactly what was actually lost, but not what was NOT lost, so it would be nice to hear more about that.

I was confused then. I assumed since there were low level limited ether scrolls (10) that were bought, held and were unaffected by the monthly and still held by the same person, that it was in fact high end limited items affected only.