Counterstrike and reach

Konge · **Posted:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:48 am

I seem to remember that you couldn't counterstrike people you couldn't reach (for example when you are using fists and facing an opponent behind a horse)...

However,

Code:

[HP:100%] [ME: 78%] [PE: 94%]
> back well-
A well-groomed male dwarf counters your attack!
A well-groomed male dwarf's counterstrike DISEMBOWELS you!
That really did HURT!
You are coughing up BLOOD!
Your second backstab hits a well-groomed male dwarf.
A dark-skinned male human says to you 'Good day, na'am.'

[HP: 32%] [ME: 78%] [PE: 94%]
> 
A large, black horse slams into a well-groomed male dwarf and sends him sprawling!
A large, black horse's bash knocks the wind out of a well-groomed male dwarf.
A large, black horse crushes a well-groomed male dwarf's right finger, bruising him slightly.
A large, black horse crushes a well-groomed male dwarf's right toe, bruising it slightly.
A well-groomed male dwarf misses a large, black horse.
A well-groomed male dwarf punches at a large, black horse's left foot, causing a minor wound.
A well-groomed male dwarf punches at a large, black horse's left leg, causing a sore wound.

[HP: 32%] [ME: 78%] [PE: 94%]

If this is a boost to people using fists, jolly good. If not, it seems a little weird.

Cyra · **Joined:** Sat Aug 24, 2002 6:56 am **Posts:** 1858

He is turning around and punching you in the face.

You have to remember that with circle stab you actually put yourself behind your victim to stab him in the back before going behind the pet. The barbarian is just like yeah whatever and is punching you in the face.

WarlordPayne · **Joined:** Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:55 pm **Posts:** 594

Yes it was like that, but Dulrik changed it not too long ago. This is the way it's supposed to be.

Growling_Mad_Scientist · **Posted:** Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:59 am

The only thing bugged is that you can get a second backstab after the barbarians counters your first one.

The Mighty Fluffball · **Posted:** Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:24 pm

That seems fine to me. I mean, you sneak up on him, with your dagger raised, start stabbing, he punches you in the face first, but your reflexes still let you get in a hit.

silmar · **Joined:** Sat Feb 28, 2004 5:14 pm **Posts:** 819

If I am not mistaken counterstrike was changed so that reach didnt make the skill useless. Anyone could just stand behind a pet and attack to get around counterstike making the skill useless unless every barb ran around with a reaching weapon.

Konge · **Posted:** Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:10 am

Let me give you a scenario as an example for why this change is stupid and absolutely ruins rogues against many classes:

Code:

> gla ever
You are looking at a curvaceous female halfling.
A wraith is in front of her with a wraith in the rear.

Now, she is untouchable by a rogue. Before this change, I could eventually kill the wraith - but now it would most likely just rawkill me, over FOUR ROWS.

ObjectivistActivist · **Posted:** Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:44 am

Many classes? I count....two, one of which must be GM in order to "ruin rogues."

QQ more.

Salak · **Posted:** Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:03 am

Champion actually. Level 48 to be more precise.

ObjectivistActivist · **Posted:** Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:07 am

Never managed to raise one before GM. :-?

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