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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:23 pm 
Did this ever get looked into or is it still a high price and very low success rate?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:24 pm 
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Redman wrote:
Did this ever get looked into or is it still a high price and very low success rate?


High price, low success rate. Probably into perpetuity.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:25 pm 
So the pinacle of the Bards silver tongue it...a joke?


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The skill has it's uses, they are just extremely narrow in focus. Far, far more narrow than they should be. Within that extremely narrow focus, the skill is good though.


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Persuade is only, an only, useful to get NPC casters to put spells on you. Which makes it the weakest form of charm available, and yet it is a Mentor lvl skill vs Charm person (vastly superior) is a journeyman lvl skill. High mana cost + sucky success rate + very little commands = a fairly useless skill.


You're dumb, persuade :enemy giant barb: quaff recall


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Muktar wrote:
Persuade is only, an only, useful to get NPC casters to put spells on you. Which makes it the weakest form of charm available, and yet it is a Mentor lvl skill vs Charm person (vastly superior) is a journeyman lvl skill. High mana cost + sucky success rate + very little commands = a fairly useless skill.


You're dumb, persuade :enemy giant barb: quaff recall


This will not work. Persuade doesn't affect targets already engaged in combat.

Just another of the "high costs" that overly narrows the focus of this skill's use.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:34 pm 
Hey D what is the chances you will modify Persuade to make it useful?

While you are at the whole taunt thing, NOW that is something a bard's magical tounge should be able to do. :drunk:


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Oh god, please don't give this to two classes.


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While you are at the whole taunt thing, NOW that is something a bard's magical tounge should be able to do. :drunk:


"A bard's rapier wit causes XYZ to attack...the two people in front of them!"

No.


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Kirsenvar wrote:
Muktar wrote:
Persuade is only, an only, useful to get NPC casters to put spells on you. Which makes it the weakest form of charm available, and yet it is a Mentor lvl skill vs Charm person (vastly superior) is a journeyman lvl skill. High mana cost + sucky success rate + very little commands = a fairly useless skill.


You're dumb, persuade :enemy giant barb: quaff recall


This will not work. Persuade doesn't affect targets already engaged in combat.

Just another of the "high costs" that overly narrows the focus of this skill's use.


Retraction:

You can persuade someone who is already engaged in combat as long as you yourself are not. Which means, you have to be third rank or second with no reacher.

If you are not singing as a bard in the third rank, hell in any situation where you're involved in GPvP, just so you can try at a cost of two rounds+ of lag to make one tank quaff recall...assuming they aren't prone when you do...then you're truly an idiot and deserve to have your pfile deleted.


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