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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:10 pm 
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I think that I would rather have less info and on one line then more.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:17 pm 
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Dulrik wrote:
Carsetius wrote:
Please change the format of the shops. It is really hard to see what each shop has.

I'm adding a paging system for the next update.

Also, were you aware you can type in 'list [item type]' and it will only show items of that type? So you could type:

list weapon
list armor
list food
list drink container

I'm guessing most people don't know about that and it might help.


Well it use to allow you to go: list leggings
for example, and then I could see the order of the sizes of things in some shops. With the additional selling going on, it's becoming more difficult to see things clearly.


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Dulrik wrote:
I don't understand why one line is superior. The SK standard is a window that is 80 character wide and the amount of information I'm trying to convey now makes it impossible to do that in one line. Even if we used only copper pieces, which I think would also be more confusing, it would still be averaging more than 80 characters per item.


Maybe it's just my learning style, but I feel like I'm being asked to read through one of those 'if you look at this random pattern of dots hard enough, you'll see this funky 3D image', which btw, I've never been able to decipher. I'm not the only player though who has complained about the 'eye-strain' being a problem though.

With the additional information added to the shops, and the number of additional items being sold, it becomes a bit chaotic when it comes to buying the right piece of equipement. I've wasted more than a couple of obsidian by 'misreading' or 'missing' something on the list entirely since the changes.

Also, in terms of the feep you indicated, instead of matching items by type, also convenient would be to filter by item wear location, size, or material type (heavy, medium, light). I'd be thrilled to see these added.

I do keep my window screen width when playing the game. I'm in favor of abbreviating the coin types to assist with clearing the vision of the shop list.

Btw, I am do find the value command to be a particular nice tool as well when it comes to getting the best bang for the platinum.

Hope this better helps explain.


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Muktar wrote:
suzie9fingers wrote:
because that's aggravating.


How?


Cause she can only count by 9's *smirks*


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that was low.


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it was hilarious. :P


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comf suzie9fingers

There there...

Perhaps a script genius wants to take D's multi-line shop listing and mute/fix/whatever it into a single line listing? That way, only those that actually have a problem with it get to use it.


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Shop listing updated based on Peso's early suggestion. Try it out.


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Dulrik wrote:
I don't understand why one line is superior.

Personally, I don't like it because it's extra spam. It's an extra line I have to sort through to figure out what's what. And when you're suddenly flooded with information, the eye can't quickly make out what is the money and what is the item. It's even more difficult when the items and the money look similar, so you're flooded with all gold, all brown, or all white.

Don't get me wrong. The numbers on the shop list are wonderful. It takes out all possibility of buying the wrong thing based on two items sharing a similar keyword. And there are even people who might like two lines. Personally, I like to read less and go from there, but to make both parties happy, I suggested the auto option. Perhaps, if the 80 character limit is so bad, you can remove the size and quality from the item, and add a list option like list info <number> to see all that information about it. Most of the time, I just list and look for something interesting. Quality, or type isn't something I'm usually keenly interested.

I guess I'll see what you've done with Peso's suggestion, and go from there...

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